DBM recommendations R700

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Looking for a good DBM for my H&s precision stock and r700 tactical . Seems I can only find the Alberta tactical and the magpul ones in Canada . The magpul looks like too much modifying to the stock for me and the Alberta tactical one is stupid expensive . Does anybody know of any good drop in DBM s available in Canada that is not crazy expensive ?
 
There's no magic solution. Kwik Klip is a drop in solution that uses proprietary mags. They're not AICS pattern. If you want AICS patterned mags, all Remington 700 short action DBMs will require inletting, some more than others. The ATRS piece is very high quality but you need to inlet for size and depth, something almost impossible to do for the home gunsmith. The Magpul DBM is much easier to deal with as it only required inletting for size, the standard BDL depth should be fine. If all you want is the ability to have removable mags, go with the Kwik Klip.
 
Your only option is kwik klip if the magpul is too much work for you. Atlasworx is pretty good for $200 but requires a decent amount of inletting and not as easily done on a milling machine due to the square shoulders on them. ATRS, like the other quality brands, use radiused shoulders for ease of inletting. Btw the ATRS includes the cost of inletting last time I checked. But as far as drop in, kwik klip is the only one I know of and they use their own proprietary mags. An AICS mag won't fit in the factory inletting with a dbm magwell in there too. The magpul is the easiest AICS style to install since it requires very little inletting. IIRC Reliable was bringing in kwik klip.
 
Your only option is kwik klip if the magpul is too much work for you. Atlasworx is pretty good for $200 but requires a decent amount of inletting and not as easily done on a milling machine due to the square shoulders on them. ATRS, like the other quality brands, use radiused shoulders for ease of inletting. Btw the ATRS includes the cost of inletting last time I checked. But as far as drop in, kwik klip is the only one I know of and they use their own proprietary mags. An AICS mag won't fit in the factory inletting with a dbm magwell in there too. The magpul is the easiest AICS style to install since it requires very little inletting. IIRC Reliable was bringing in kwik klip.

Cool thanks , I do have a dremal I just dunno if I wanna risk messing up my stock if I don’t have too . I may end up trying the magpul though if it’s the easiest . The magpul DBM takes any AIC s magazines ?
 
I installed 2 magpul DBM kits in HS stocks. I had to use a dremel to inlet the stock a small amount and I had to trim the Magpul parts a fair bit. For $80 it was the cheapest option and worked perfectly with metal and polymer AICS mags(poly in .223 and .308). It seemed to be very durable compared to other options.

It really wasnt much work at all. I bought a $20 dremel kit on amazon specifically for the job and both turned out great.

Before getting the first Magpul kit, I also tried the Legacy Sports kit and found it to be lacking in durability. It was about $100. It drops in with no mods, but takes proprietary mags that are more expensive than some AICS pattern mags. Just didnt seem to have the level of quality that I felt I could depend on. The magpul with metal AICS mags definitely had a much better feel.
 
I installed 2 magpul DBM kits in HS stocks. I had to use a dremel to inlet the stock a small amount and I had to trim the Magpul parts a fair bit. For $80 it was the cheapest option and worked perfectly with metal and polymer AICS mags(poly in .223 and .308). It seemed to be very durable compared to other options.

It really wasnt much work at all. I bought a $20 dremel kit on amazon specifically for the job and both turned out great.

Before getting the first Magpul kit, I also tried the Legacy Sports kit and found it to be lacking in durability. It was about $100. It drops in with no mods, but takes proprietary mags that are more expensive than some AICS pattern mags. Just didnt seem to have the level of quality that I felt I could depend on. The magpul with metal AICS mags definitely had a much better feel.

Thanks for the input , did you have to dremal the aluminum or just the Fiberglas parts of the stock ? Is there slop in the magazines or do they fit snug ?
 
The Stiller DBM is a nice unit that requires very minimal inletting that can easily be done with a Dremel. It also has a flange around the bottom to cover up the ####ty job you do of opening things up, haha. Works with AICS mags and is reasonably priced if I recall correctly.
 
Check out Wyatt. Can't remember the price but they show up here every once in a while or you can buy direct from their canadian distributor.
No in letting and pretty much drop in in the 3 or 4 I've done. Metal mags, in 5 and 10 round in 308 sized cartridges.
 
i have the legacy drop in unit. i wanted a better quality system and would pay for it but my first concern was to get my rem 700 300 bo to feed properly and the legacy does that and im starting to like it except for the cheezy mag release. i think its the same as the howa det mag rifles but made for the rem not 100 percent sure on that though
 
It's a fair bit of work with a short action to inlet with a dremel. I have done it but i takes a lot of time and patience and it doesn't look as clean as a professional job done on a mill. If it were me and you really wanted a DBM i would either send it to a smith for in-letting which would be expensive OR sell sell your current stock on the EE and use the funds towards some kind of chassis/stock. Magpul and MDT are making some budget friendly options now.
 
Thanks for the input , did you have to dremal the aluminum or just the Fiberglas parts of the stock ? Is there slop in the magazines or do they fit snug ?

Sorry for the delayed reply . I did not have to cut into the aluminum but you will if you dont want to trim the magpul part. A variety of mags fit very nicely and functioned well. On one of the stocks I did, I was planning on painting anyway so I "bedded" the magwell with JB plastic weld putty. I made sure to tape/ coat in grease the magwell as not epoxy it into the stock. After a bit of sanding and paint all the edges looked perfect. That's only good if you are painting the stock though. The first one I did was not painted and turned out much better. Just go slow. You can always remove more material if you have to.

There is at least 1 good youtube video demonstrating how to trim the magpul magwell.
 
We fit AICS/AI type bottom metals from many different manufacturers on a daily basis. The CNC alu made mag systems all work, never came across a bad one. For us the Australian Atlasworx is the only company that we can reliably get our supply from being in Ireland. After fitting hundreds of Atlasworx AICS/AI type mag systems to Tikka, Remmy Howa stocks I have yet to see one fail. Prices are good and the company is very good to deal with. So good in fact that we get other cnc parts made by them.
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