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I have seen them go through auctions over here and be relegated to the sealed bid sale, they rarely make bottom estimate or reserve which is a shame as the stocks can be very good and the rifle itself is a fine starter rifle for deer. I wouldnt pay £200 over here for one with a scope fitted and a decent one at that! Just the market for used guns is high and the older makes (no longer made etc) are pushed right down into the bottom.
A private sale always raises more as does a part ex when looking at a new rifle!
 
Nice enough rifles but i wouldn`t pay more than $400. That would have to be lke new. Had one a few years back, tack driver with 75 and 80 gr. bullets wouldn`t shoot the 100 gr. bullets of any make even factory ammo. Wrote Paker Hale about it no joy there, sold long ago.
 
Nice enough rifles but i wouldn`t pay more than $400. That would have to be lke new. Had one a few years back, tack driver with 75 and 80 gr. bullets wouldn`t shoot the 100 gr. bullets of any make even factory ammo. Wrote Paker Hale about it no joy there, sold long ago.
Sounds like a barrel twist ratio issue, a lot of the older ones cant stabilise anything over 90 grains. Parker Hale sank into history long ago as did AG Parker (another branch of the family) with the passsing of Ma Parker and the eventual winding up of the businesses. Some have resurfaced as names owned by foreign enterprises importing cheap scopes from China as well as cheap shotguns from Turkey.
The Birmingham trade is long gone although the rifles still survive and give good service.
I know a PH buff who would know just about everything if you furnish pics and a serial number. Your call its his passion!
I had a lovely 7x57 come through my hands from a fellow dealer but I couldnt raise the funds as it was a beauty but recoiled worse than the igby I already owned. That said Henry Lloyd is for sale if you have £50 000 spare!
 
TimC i did measure the twist and it was 1/10. Standard twist for 243 at the time. The letter i got from PH claimed i was loading the cartridge to fast, they ignored the part where i told them even with various factory ammo it wouldn`t group. Sold the rifle to a dedicated varmint shooter, he didn`t load 100 gr. bullets for deer. Not sure if i still have the letter from PH, nice enough rifles mags got a bit expensive.
 
Ok its just a common perception that 100 grain bullets stabilise better in 1 in 9 1/2 or 1 in 9. In fact if you try and buy heavier than 90 grain weight bullets here dealers tend to point this out. that said no two rifles perform exactly the same and over short distances it doesnt really matter.
I was ridiculed by a TR guru once for attempting to shoot at 1000 yards with 220 grain handloads in my rebarrelled P14 in 7.62 and that the twist was too slow, 5 Bulls and 4 Vs said it didnt matter!
 
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