Describing items with "Normal Wear and Tear for It's Age" ???

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Why do sellers use the statement, "Normal Wear and Tear for It's Age" to describe items they are selling? What exactly does this mean?

I think it would save everyone a lot if hassle if a person selling something would simply provide the actual details of the item for sale. Is it just me or do others find this frustrating?
 
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Usually means the firearm is beat up. Finish heavily worn, stock soaked in oil to a blackish colour and dented/scratched/gouged, worn but likely safe 'frosted' bore, rifling almost still there. 'Frosted' means rust has started. Doesn't mean unsafe or worn though.
Dealers used to call 'em "examples". Rest of us call 'em junkers. Kind of like how real estate people describe a hovel as being a 'fixer upper' or a 'handy mans dream'.
 
LOL - dating forum. Kind of like "considered attractive" lmao. Same thing when selling a car - "needs minor body work"; I guess that could apply to both!!!

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Hey PIAT, I know this is completely off topic but there was no other way I could reach you. We were talking over the private messages, but when I tried replying, it said you had reached your full capacity in terms of messages and thus couldn't receive it.
 
PIAT said:
Why do sellers use the statement, "Normal Wear and Tear for It's Age" to describe items they are selling? What exactly does this mean?

I think it would save everyone a lot if hassle if a person selling something would simply provide the actual details of the item for sale. Is it just me or do others find this frustrating?
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That’s nothing; I had a dealer from Port Alberni represent two older guns he was selling as being NIB. After making my offer and him excepting it, I asked him to send me some pictures of the items. In the pictures I noticed that there were some rings and screws missing that would normally be included in one of the kits. He couldn’t explain the missing parts except to say they were likely in another box of parts and would look for them. Somewhere along the email chain he changed the description from NIB to LNIB. After I got the guns it was obvious they were well used and defiantly not NIB or even LNIB. I overpaid by at least 30% based on his BS description. I know, I’m an idiot, but this jerk is a dealer for f#@%s sakes, I was expecting some amount of integrity.
 
Sounds like a Car Salesman using a Sales Pitch for a POS that he wants off the lot yesterday.

PIAT said:
Why do sellers use the statement, "Normal Wear and Tear for It's Age" to describe items they are selling? What exactly does this mean?

I think it would save everyone a lot if hassle if a person selling something would simply provide the actual details of the item for sale. Is it just me or do others find this frustrating?
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PIAT said:
Why do sellers use the statement, "Normal Wear and Tear for It's Age" to describe items they are selling? What exactly does this mean?

I think it would save everyone a lot if hassle if a person selling something would simply provide the actual details of the item for sale. Is it just me or do others find this frustrating?
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louthepou said:
I also like "not bad for a 100 year old rifle"

Talk about an empirical statement!
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That's my favorite statement!!

I have mostly 100 year old rifles in my collection. Some have good but dark bores, a few bumps and bruises, others are frosted with missing bluing and lots of dings. Then there's several that are VG condition bores as new with almost perfect wood.

They are all 100 years old but are all in different conditions. Nothing "normal" about any of them.

I once went to look at a no4 that a local fellow had for sale. He described it as "an old dirty rifle" and that was it. Upon arriving at his house he went on to say it's in so so shape normal for an old gun and that he was given it and never fired it in the 40 years he had it. When he pulled it out of the case it was in mint shape, perfect bluing, wood, and barrel. I guess one man's trash is another treasure!!

Those of us that collect and buy Milsurps know that if you look at 10 guns they will be in 10 different conditions.
 
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I think a lot of this comes from people who are not normally involved with milsurp stuff. When you are used to brand new Remchesters, etc., you expect a new gun to be all shiny and pretty. Even unissued milsurps are not like that. They have dings, scratches, and the bluing isn't usually all shiny and glossy. They often aren't familiar with how to grade a military rifle at all.
 
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Usually means the firearm is beat up. Finish heavily worn, stock soaked in oil to a blackish colour and dented/scratched/gouged, worn but likely safe 'frosted' bore, rifling almost still there. 'Frosted' means rust has started. Doesn't mean unsafe or worn though.
Dealers used to call 'em "examples". Rest of us call 'em junkers. Kind of like how real estate people describe a hovel as being a 'fixer upper' or a 'handy mans dream'.
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I skip these kind of adds immediately.
What kind of merchandise can you expect from a seller who describes an item like this?
 
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