Different kinds of rimfire competition

KDX

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I know there is bulls eye competion, but what others are there? Is there any kind of practicle or IPSC type of events for rimfire? I like the idea of doing those competions, but ammo cost alone is :eek:
 
KDX said:
I know there is bulls eye competion, but what others are there? Is there any kind of practicle or IPSC type of events for rimfire? I like the idea of doing those competions, but ammo cost alone is :eek:


Mini rifle is a form of IPSC like practical shooting done with rimfire. Check out our website for a primer:

http://eohc.ca/minirifle.asp
 
With any luck, and a continuing interest, BGC will be running some mini-rifle matches at least with the members.

I'd love to see this grow some legs.
 
I would love to see that mini-rifle thing take off. A class in ISPC for rimfire pistols would be nice to see as well.
 
The mini-rifle idea is a fantastic idea.
why can't we have something similar with .22 handguns too?
I wish we can organize a similar event in the GTA area. I will be the first on the range.
I will check with the folks in my club (Galt)
 
I've shot rimefire handgun matches were you shoot a round of

standard---- 10 shots unlimited time
timed------- two 5 shot strings in under 20 sec each
rapid------- two 5 shot strings in under 10 sec each

all targets are scored so it is more about accuracy than the combat style of ipsc.

IPSC is a lot of fun and I've shot it. rimefire would be a good laugh but the lack of recoil would take a serious amount of challenge out of it.
 
mrefaat said:
The mini-rifle idea is a fantastic idea.
why can't we have something similar with .22 handguns too?
I wish we can organize a similar event in the GTA area. I will be the first on the range.
I will check with the folks in my club (Galt)

The biggest problem with Rimfire pistol IPSC is many of the guns have ####ty safetys that are hard to apply and harder to wipe off. Plus holsters are a ##### to find.
 
I'm not too familiar with rimfire pistols, but good safeties would be important. Even if popular target pistols like the Ruger Mark II, Beretta 87, etc. were not allowed for safety reasons I don't think that would kill this sports chances of becoming popular. Maybe the answer would be to allow converted 1911's, Glocks, and CZ's in? I don't know if some conversions bypass the safeties or not, but I'm sure other people could comment on that.

I think it would be a great way to draw more people into the sport. Cheaper guns, cheap ammo, less recoil - fun for the whole family! The mini-rifle events and the .22LR sport pistol competitions (.22SPC ?) could be held together.

Once people get bored of the small caliber events or they have too much money weighing them down, then they can move up to regular ISPC! ;)
 
I was about to buy a .22lr conversion kit for my Beretta 92fs but it was too expensive for a "kit" with safety on the slide, not sure about the 1911 though. ended up getting a SW 617
I would be willing to buy it though if safety was the obstacle towards having such events in the GTA.
 
I think full-size pistols with conversion kits wouldn't be any better, at least cost-wise. Conversion kits for glocks and 1911's seem to go for 300 or 400 bucks, ditto for the CZ conversion. Some sort of pistol event with .22's would be nice though. Maybe we need to invent something?
 
I wasn't thinking of limiting the pistol event to conversions only - I just meant that they would be allowed. Heck, if people wanted to enter with .22LR revolvers and there wasn't anything inherrently unsafe with that model then I'd say allow it!

I'm going to do a little googling and see if something similar hasn't already been organized somewhere. I had never heard of the mini-rifle event before and that sounds fantastic. Maybe something like the ".22SPC" we're discussing is already underway.
 
found this on rec.guns newsgroup, dated 1995, someone was asking the same question, here is a coment:

"Well, Weld County Colorado Jackalopes IPSC club does this thru the winter months
and a Cheyenne, Wyo club does it too.
Miniature plates, miniature IPSC targets...... very similar to regular
IPSC except that so far, stages have been 20 round maximums to match with the standard magazine capacity."

and someone else wrote:
"this is becoming increasingly popular in
New Zealand. I have shot .22 IPSC style events a few times and find them really enjoyable. You have to expect a lot of "A" zone hits, and it can be fast. But that's the fun."

will keep looking...
 
Wow. In reading up on IPSC, I don't think we stand much chance of creating a rimfire version of it. We would, for safety reasons, need to find people capable and willing to instruct 2-day training sessions similar to the IPSC's black badge course. Setting up the range for IPSC events take a fair amount of time too so we would need strong support from the club as well. In the end, because there is very little recoil from a .22 pistol, I don't think the experience would be fun enough to keep people volunteering their time to keep the whole endeavor afloat.

How about a modified "Steel Challenge" instead though?
The Steel Challenge is a major pistol match held in California each year that uses all steel targets and is scored on time only. There are 7 events per contest. All courses of fire consist of 5 steel targets (8", 10" and 12" circles, or 18"x24" rectangles) in various configurations. For each course, the competitor begins in the "surrender" position, draws his/her handgun and places one hit on each of the 5 steel targets. There is no limit on the number of shots that may be fired at each plate. After the competitor finishes shooting, the time is recorded. If the competitor has left a plate unhit, a time penalty is assessed. Some courses require that a particular plate be engaged last. Plates not hit before the stop plate is hit are counted as misses, and the time stops when the stop plate is hit. Five strings are shot at each event, and the best 4 of 5 times are kept for score. After all 7 events are completed the times from each stage are added. The match winner is the shooter with the fastest total time.

In this event the shooter doesn't move. I would also recommend making reloading, working the slide, and clearing jams illegal (automatic no-score) so that would reduce the training to safely drawing the pistol and range commands. Unfortunately it would also mean double action pistols/revolvers only. Anybody care to comment?
 
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