Different manufacturer’s brass

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Different manufacturer’s brass

For the typical BR shooter I understand that it is important to use the same lot of brass that was shot the same amount of times for consistent Pinpoint accuracy.

If someone uses the exact same powder, primer, bullet and COAL in a cartridge and the only variable that is different is a mix of Brass (high quality brass only, Federal, Winchester,lapua, remington ) what level of accuracy loss can be expected at 100 yards?

For the typical hunter (IE me) I believe that 1 moa at 100yards is more than enough in terms of accuracy. Is it still possible to get that level of accuracy out of different brands of brass?
 
Mixing cases, is a bad practice for cartridges operating at high pressures. The different volumes of the varying cases, causes differences in pressures, that can not only cause inconsistent accuracy, but can even be a safety concern in some instances.
 
Mixed brass will cause a loss of accuracy.

Sort your brass by headstamp, at a minimum.

For a rifle that I load for accuracy, I buy 500 to 1000 cases (same lot #) and sort them bu weight, so that each box of 50 rounds is within 0.3 gr.

For casual hunting ammo I sort by headstamp and trim to a common length.
 
You may not notice much difference at 100 yards, since wildly varying velocities can still group well at powder burn range. Some people will look at that as proof that velocity variation doesn't matter, when what they are really proving is that 100 yard groups don't mean s**t.
 
I've noticed mixed head stamp brass to open up my groups around 1" at 100yds. A load that shoots 1" at 100yds with brass from the same lot can open up to 2" pretty easily when using mixed brass. 2" can open to 3", etc.

I don't have too much experience with it since when I first started reloading I noticed it in two rifles I started to sort my brass after that.
 
I'll go along with most of what these knowledgeable fellows have to say but will disagree with a fine point.

First off, if you are lucky enough to have a rifle chambered with a reamer on its last few cuts and therefore being chambered to the minimum spec side, it likely won't make much difference to your hunting groups.

As an example, I have a T3 in 6.5x55 that just doesn't care what you shoot through it. At 200 meters, it will shoot the offerings of the same bullet weight from four different manufacturers into a consistent 4cm or 2in. Each will be in a 1in cluster as per manufacturer. The other T3 I have, is a whole different bird. Try six inch groups at 200 yards with different manufacturers.

The only difference between these rifles, is the chamber. The latter rifle has a slightly larger chamber.

As for different brands or lots of cases shooting into different groups. Maybe. It depends on lots of things. The main thing isn't so much weight but the distribution of that weight. Starting off with cases of the same make and lot number saves a lot of time and like mentioned previously works well. Buying large quanties and sorting them into weight batches is very effective and makes for consistent ammo.

If you want to get really picky, trim each case to length, add a primer and weigh it, fill it with water, until the miniscus is level with the case mouth and fill it again. This will give you the true volumetric capacity of the case. This, if you are being anal about constants, is what you are really trying to determine. This can be measured in any form you like, as long as it's repeatable and accurate.

If volumetric capacities are within certain parameters, your velocities and accuracy will be good with similar loads.

I used to be extremely anal about such things, when I was shooting Hunter Bench Rest. I measured every case by volume. Now, I just do what Ganderite does, only not on such a grand scale. I also fireform my brass and neck resize only, then mark the storage boxes for the individual rifles they are sized for.

For most people, that is still far to anal but hitting a game animal properly is at least as important and maybe more so than a super tight group on a target.

Now, another thing to take into account, are bullets, primers and powder. Are they all from the same lot??? Some lots of bullets, just aren't as accurate as others. Today, with the use of Juenke gauges by manufacturers, bullet jackets are more consistent than ever. Almost match grade, even for cheaper types.

Powder, can and does vary lot for lot. Like Ganderite and his large brass purchases, I buy powder in eight pound kegs When I get down to 4 pounds, I buy another eight pound keg and mix all twelve or so pounds together as a blend. This works very well and there is little to no difference from one batch to the next. I have had some real surprises though.

Case preparation is a good place to start.

If all you can afford or have access to is mixed bags of cases, don't be to concerned. Separate them by weight, before pulling the primers, check their weights by water volume and pick the cases that are similar.

Once you've done this, reanneal the cases and fireform them in your rifle.
 
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