Dillon Dies question (.460)

[tkv000]

I was thinking of getting a S&W .460 XVR, I have a Dillon XL 650 and am a little confused about buying dies for it, I currently reload for .45 ACP, and .38/357 my question is:

Can I use one set of dies to load all three shells (.45 Colt, .454 Casull, and .460) like the .38/357? Dillon doesn't list a set of Dies for the .460, but they list seperate ones for the .45 Colt and .454 Casull... Any help is appreciated.

 

[Gibbs505]

Darn, I thought that you might be talking about the 460 weatherby!

 

[Checkervette]

I was told and purchased on recomendation dies from RCBS in carbide for the 460 as it is very much longer.
Succesfully loaded and shot 454 brass in the 45 colt dies of Dillons. shell plate holder same as 45 colt as well. The diameter was allegded to be tighter tollerance on 454. Spoke to Dillon rep they assured me use 45 colt dies and shell plate work fopr 454 and that was only 4 days ago. So they must have listed some new parts. The shell plate set I have says 45 colt 454 on the id tag of the box. The RCBS dies for 460 use a roll crimp which is alledged to be required on the 460 recoil bullet creep issue.

454 winchester brass 240 grn Hornady XTP/MAG bullet CCI small rifle magnum primer 38 grains of H110 very slight primer crater resulted in 1950 FPS so I would not go any higher then that on the 454 brass.

I use the Dillon 550B but not to auto prime, removed de-prime pin and feel much safer being able to see the priming portion on a lee auto prime hand tool.

 

[tkv000]

Thanks for the info! Dillon told me the same thing, I'm still up in arms on the .460, as I hear it suffers from extreme barrel wear, something like 1100 rounds, now I don't plan on shooting .460 all the time, but getting something re-barreled in my region isn't an easy task, so I'll wait to hear some actual reports from owners.

 

[Checkervette]

Barrel life 460

I just loaded some 460 in Starline brass According to the Hodgon site with 300 grn XTP/mag I used:

H110 @ 42 grns resulted in 1850 fps
Lil Gun @ 44 grns resulted in 1950 fps

The 460 utilizes variable twist riffling to accel the twist gradual This will decrease the wear on the riffling and realistically we are below 2000 fps So I am going to say I heard of this early barrel wear and Call it BS.

Probabally started by someone wanting to bad mouth something they didn't have or wanted to sell something else to ya.

Lot's of hunting guns exceed this speed weight combination so I highly doubt Smith and Wesson made something that is going to wear out so fast it would tarnish their reputation. Especially since this is their cadilac flag ship revolver. XVR Extreme Velocity Revolver claimed to be the fastest revolver on the planet. Nice and shiney too

If you haven't shot one yet, try one as soon as you can. They are definatley memorable.
If you want a cheaper unit with a big bang try a 454 casul. I am thinking about adding one to my selection as after I fired the 460 with 454 it makes for extra clynider cleening time because of the residue left from the shorter 454 round in the long cylinder.
The Taurus Raging bull in 454 has my eye even though alot of folks bad mouth the Taurus line as well.

If you have lots of guns the wear factor is distributed over the whole selection making them all last longer. (That's what I tell my wife why I need several more guns)

Thanks for the info! Dillon told me the same thing, I'm still up in arms on the .460, as I hear it suffers from extreme barrel wear, something like 1100 rounds, now I don't plan on shooting .460 all the time, but getting something re-barreled in my region isn't an easy task, so I'll wait to hear some actual reports from owners.