Sorry your mistaken, we do not inventory the Square Deal or any proprietery dies or parts for this press. Due to limited availability of dies to fit this press and added effort in changing calibers, there is little interest in the Dillon Square Deal. We can bring in the presses and parts but it would be on a pre order only. We carry lots of 550 and 650 presses and accesories in stock. Phil.
dillon square B or lee classic turret
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Sorry your mistaken, we do not inventory the Square Deal or any proprietery dies or parts for this press. Due to limited availability of dies to fit this press and added effort in changing calibers, there is little interest in the Dillon Square Deal. We can bring in the presses and parts but it would be on a pre order only. We carry lots of 550 and 650 presses and accesories in stock. Phil.
I really don't get the "standard die" issue...unless he already has the dies what difference does it make what he has to buy
Just because their 7/8's doesn't mean they're free...
it means you can use ANYBODY'S DIES- rcbs, lyman, lee , etc- that MAKES a difference if you have an oddball caliber, get it on sale , or want to use something like a lube die wich is propietory to RCBS the last time i looked- or if it's not in stock, you can simplly switch brands- also, the rcbs uses a DIFFERENT DECAPPING PIN than the lee where you can change the pin instead or replacing the whole rod- with the square deal, you have to either get the dies from the factory, or from a dillon dealer
most of us use ONE press for a variety of calibers, and you can with a "universal " press you can buy dies at any gun shop
I love the Lee Classic 4 hole turret press!! I have used it with the turret turning rod in and with it out. You can load pistol or rifle easily with it. You can set a Lee powder dispensor on it and really crank out the ammo. I used W231 for 9mm and 38 special, because it meters so nicely. I have loaded many different calibers on it.
I highly recommend the Lee Classic Turret press!
I highly recommend the Lee Classic Turret press!
I just checked the Dillon site & the Square Deal B is advertised as:
The Square DealB is only capable of loading the common straight walled pistol cartridges, uses a proprietary drop-in insert style die, and is a great compact reloader.
In the die section is states that rifle calibers are N/A.
The Square DealB is only capable of loading the common straight walled pistol cartridges, uses a proprietary drop-in insert style die, and is a great compact reloader.
In the die section is states that rifle calibers are N/A.
You can not load 308 on a square deal...About as close to a "rifle" cartridge that SD can load is the 44-40 (It does have a slight taper)....Are you sure about that? I can't imagine loading 308 on a Dillon SD (or .223 for that matter)
Dillon advertises them for straight wall pistol cases only...
Prove it...Take a video and post it here....Dillon does not make .223 dies for the square deal...The throat of the SD cannot accept a .223....Call Dillon and ask....Either your buddy is full of it, or........The Dillon will not do rifle cartridges if you go that route later.
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um, then how does my buddy run 223 in his
Geezzz people...Check out the Dillon website...It lists the only calibers that the SD can reload....
I would choose the Square Deal B over the turret press for the use you describe. Proprietary dies aren't really that big of a deal if you only plan on loading 9mm and possibly .38 Special.
That said, I suggest that you seriously consider a 550 over the Square Deal. They aren't that much more expensive and they have the following advantages:
1. Some people find that the small size of the Square Deal makes it a little more difficult to operate.
2. If you ever decide that you want to load more calibres, the 550 is simpler and less expensive to convert.
3. Auto indexing only adds complication without benefit unless you have a casefeeder; something that is not offered for the Square Deal.
All in all, I think the added flexibility of the 550 is better to have and not need than to need and not have given the relative costs of the two presses. Keep in mind that a good press is something you should only have to buy once and the cost difference is small when amortized over several years.
For even modest quantities of reloading, I prefer a progressive. I figure that I would rather spend less time reloading and more time shooting.
That said, I suggest that you seriously consider a 550 over the Square Deal. They aren't that much more expensive and they have the following advantages:
1. Some people find that the small size of the Square Deal makes it a little more difficult to operate.
2. If you ever decide that you want to load more calibres, the 550 is simpler and less expensive to convert.
3. Auto indexing only adds complication without benefit unless you have a casefeeder; something that is not offered for the Square Deal.
All in all, I think the added flexibility of the 550 is better to have and not need than to need and not have given the relative costs of the two presses. Keep in mind that a good press is something you should only have to buy once and the cost difference is small when amortized over several years.
For even modest quantities of reloading, I prefer a progressive. I figure that I would rather spend less time reloading and more time shooting.
The Dillon will not do rifle cartridges if you go that route later.
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um, then how does my buddy run 223 in his
So, after smelling poo on this. I checked with Dillon. Here's their answer:
".223 is too tall to load on the SDB, as the cartridge is still partially in the seating die when the shell plate begins to rotate"
Case closed.
dillon
Can't beat Dillon bought a used square deal 45acp at a dealer for $100 couldn't get it to load properly , called , returned press , was sent brand new one less than 2 weeks total, . loaded 50000 rounds, press seemed to be loosing up they sent me complete rebulid kit and many spare parts I might need . Their rational was shipping cost way more than the parts.
Loaded another 25000 at least sold for almost new price.
Bought a 550 then another 550 ( because I said if you ever want to quit loading i'll buy it) . Then out of the blue before I even had time to setup one of the 550's found someone selling a full loaded 650 settup in the caliber I wanted with 14000 spp and tons of changes compete with powder measures.Too good a deal to pass sold both 550's on EE for near new price can't beat price you get for used dillon's. Have never been happier than with 650.Around 800 /hr 40 s&w's ( takes longer to case check loaded & box them than to load them.)
So if only to load 9mm get square deal and order complete change over for 38 spl complete with powder measure , you will have fast changeovers . your output will be after your familier with it about 400/hr .
To load rifle for target or hunting by a good single stage Quality beats Quanity especially if you only get one shot.
to go for quanity try a 550
supermag
Can't beat Dillon bought a used square deal 45acp at a dealer for $100 couldn't get it to load properly , called , returned press , was sent brand new one less than 2 weeks total, . loaded 50000 rounds, press seemed to be loosing up they sent me complete rebulid kit and many spare parts I might need . Their rational was shipping cost way more than the parts.
Loaded another 25000 at least sold for almost new price.
Bought a 550 then another 550 ( because I said if you ever want to quit loading i'll buy it) . Then out of the blue before I even had time to setup one of the 550's found someone selling a full loaded 650 settup in the caliber I wanted with 14000 spp and tons of changes compete with powder measures.Too good a deal to pass sold both 550's on EE for near new price can't beat price you get for used dillon's. Have never been happier than with 650.Around 800 /hr 40 s&w's ( takes longer to case check loaded & box them than to load them.)
So if only to load 9mm get square deal and order complete change over for 38 spl complete with powder measure , you will have fast changeovers . your output will be after your familier with it about 400/hr .
To load rifle for target or hunting by a good single stage Quality beats Quanity especially if you only get one shot.
to go for quanity try a 550
supermag
