Dillon to load 9mm and 45acp
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Get a 650xl in one of the calibres and a conversion kit for the other. Don't forget to get a quick change kit, this will allow you to swap out heads with adjusted dies and powder measure.
i'm thinking of getting into reloading. handgun only,maybe .223 down the road,anyway what is the cost for all the equipment that i will need for 3 h.g calibres on a progressive setup
I have the 650 and a friend has had both. He only has the 650 now. If you can afford the 650 get it.
It has an extra station for a powder checker, and it auto indexes.
The 650 can come set up for either .45 or 9mm. You will need a set of dies each caliber, and an extra "conversion kit" for the other caliber.
If you get the case feeder(highly recommended) you will need the large and small shell plates.
To make life easy you should get annother tool head(it would be foolish not to) so you do not have to readjust your dies after changing calibers. A second powder funnel will also make life easier. I have some extra primer pickup tubes and a second primer assembly the make changing from large to small primers easier.
Dillon dies have a longer threaded body so they are easier to set up, but Lee and RCBS work as well. You may have to put the locknut on the bottom of the tool head.
If you use sm primer .45 cases you will not have to change the primer size but I hear they can be a pain to reload. The pockets are a little finicky
I typically don't change calibers untill I have about 1000 cases to reload. Anything less dosn't seem worth it. I can do about 800 rnds an hour not including loading the pickup tubes.
Gas Can
It has an extra station for a powder checker, and it auto indexes.
The 650 can come set up for either .45 or 9mm. You will need a set of dies each caliber, and an extra "conversion kit" for the other caliber.
If you get the case feeder(highly recommended) you will need the large and small shell plates.
To make life easy you should get annother tool head(it would be foolish not to) so you do not have to readjust your dies after changing calibers. A second powder funnel will also make life easier. I have some extra primer pickup tubes and a second primer assembly the make changing from large to small primers easier.
Dillon dies have a longer threaded body so they are easier to set up, but Lee and RCBS work as well. You may have to put the locknut on the bottom of the tool head.
If you use sm primer .45 cases you will not have to change the primer size but I hear they can be a pain to reload. The pockets are a little finicky
I typically don't change calibers untill I have about 1000 cases to reload. Anything less dosn't seem worth it. I can do about 800 rnds an hour not including loading the pickup tubes.
Gas Can
Which press to get depends on whether you plan on using a case feeder. The 550 is all the press you need for manual case feeding. There is no point in getting a 650 unless you also plan on getting the case feeder for it.
Take a serious look at your expected shooting volumes and let that drive your press selection. This will help you get an idea of the capabilities of the different presses:
http://www.brianenos.com/pages/dillon.html
Take a serious look at your expected shooting volumes and let that drive your press selection. This will help you get an idea of the capabilities of the different presses:
http://www.brianenos.com/pages/dillon.html
Ellwood Epps in Ontario, was just there last Tue and they have just about every Dillon piece in stock.
The price from Dillon may seem more attractive but shipping is very costly and I was told that it may take several weeks to get over the border.
I believe that the 650XL with 1 calibre of choice is $649 at Epps
The price from Dillon may seem more attractive but shipping is very costly and I was told that it may take several weeks to get over the border.
I believe that the 650XL with 1 calibre of choice is $649 at Epps
$650 for the press in one calibre, $240 for the case feeder with 1 calibre plate. Each calibre conversion is $80 give or take and if you want to setup your dies and powder measure for each calibre you'll need a quick change kit($119 each).
To give you an idea, I reload 9mm and 223 after all was said and done, including Dillon dies and powder check dies/alarms I dished out about $1,500.Benefits?...on the weekend I reloaded 400 rounds of 223 and that took about 35 minutes, the same day I cranked out about 1K of 9mm in no time
To give you an idea, I reload 9mm and 223 after all was said and done, including Dillon dies and powder check dies/alarms I dished out about $1,500.Benefits?...on the weekend I reloaded 400 rounds of 223 and that took about 35 minutes, the same day I cranked out about 1K of 9mm in no time
i'm thinking of getting into reloading. handgun only,maybe .223 down the road,anyway what is the cost for all the equipment that i will need for 3 h.g calibres on a progressive setup
$650 for the press in one calibre, $240 for the case feeder with 1 calibre plate. Each calibre conversion is $80 give or take and if you want to setup your dies and powder measure for each calibre you'll need a quick change kit($119 each).
To give you an idea, I reload 9mm and 223 after all was said and done, including Dillon dies and powder check dies/alarms I dished out about $1,500.Benefits?...on the weekend I reloaded 400 rounds of 223 and that took about 35 minutes, the same day I cranked out about 1K of 9mm in no time
thanks robak1.
i think i will be getting into reloading.
+1
Now for guys who can make due with the 650, you have an added option.
The base machine is sold without the casefeeder. Switching primer assemblys isn't hard, but at some point you may find it a pain to constantly switch back and forth.
One option is to buy the press in the primer size you use most, and save for the second press minus the case feeder. You only use one casefeeder at a time.
I picked a barely used 550B with bullet tray, roller handle and strong mount locally for $600. Maybe it would have been nice with the auto indexing... I don't know but I only load 9mm and if everything runs smoothly I can pump out 100 rds in about 20mins... I take my time and weight a charge about every 30 rds for accuracy. It goes up to about 30mins for a 100rds if a case does not de prime properly and the old used primer gets reseated agian. Dillion claims 400 - 600 per hour....
My setup is with RCBS and a RCBS Lock Out Die. 1 - size, deprime and prime. 2 - drop the powder and bell. 3 - Powder check lock out die. 4 - Bullet seater and crimp (if you want to)
I hear and read the Hornady LNL is at the same price point as the 550B, reloads well, has 5 stages and is auto indexing.
My setup is with RCBS and a RCBS Lock Out Die. 1 - size, deprime and prime. 2 - drop the powder and bell. 3 - Powder check lock out die. 4 - Bullet seater and crimp (if you want to)
I hear and read the Hornady LNL is at the same price point as the 550B, reloads well, has 5 stages and is auto indexing.
Things change, I realize, but it always used to be quite economical and quick as long as you specify USPS. Counterintuitive as it sounds, UPS is far more costly and slower.
LNL user here, and like it. I think I paid about $600-650 after taxes for whole setup including dies, shell plate, caliper, scale, reloading books, bullet puller, primer tray etc.
It has 5 stations, auto-indexing, no conversion heads or kits needed.
It has 5 stations, auto-indexing, no conversion heads or kits needed.
- Location
- Regina, SK
With a single dillon press there is one thing you're going to learn to hate when reloading 9 and 45 and that is converting the press back and forth from small to large primer. It was the initial reason that I purchased two 550B presses.
I just bought a Hornady LNL from ARC-INTER. Got the whole setup for both of the calibers you are wanting to reload for $700. Thats if your heart isn't set on Dillon.
Oh ya the LNL changes from small primer to large in about 5 minutes.
ginseng503
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- Location
- N. Ontario
On this board in the business section, reloading supplies, Custom Reloading Service lists the following prices.
RL 550 - $492
RL 650 - $637
You likely need accessories that they have or can get too.
RL 550 - $492
RL 650 - $637
You likely need accessories that they have or can get too.
Back when I got mine from Cabelas US, the L&L with case feeder cost me $C 948.00 (charged to my VISA) including tax and delivery. I then received 1000 free 45ACP 185g JSWC easily worth $C250.00 delivered, so I'm out of pocket $C698.00 for the whole shabang, FOB my bench.
OK, "Good for Me"
. Point being, those old deals aren't offered any more so as the price differential between "Red" and "Blue" dissipates, the decision to go "Red" isn't as much of a no-brainer. The 650 is definitely worth looking at again.
