Discontinued Ruger Cals..?

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First off- Im Back, Im Safe, I watched many wild fire and battled to save ground where I could as the fire allowed.. it has now moved off into the hills, house is fine, proeprty burnt but thats ok.

Question for those in the know or know enough , or care enough to respond.

These Rugers , particularly the M77 line up, hawkeyes and the like- They seem to come and go in some Calibres and then some often get discontinued, i believe the 358 Winchester is one and also the 35 Whelen may be one.... ?

My question is about the Re sale for the Hawkeyes in the discontinued Calibres.... are they anything cool or worth a pinch more for factory chamebred ones?


I've got one m77 hawkeye in a 35 whelen, contemplating putting it up for sale- its a little less than average condition, due to useage and sitting in a ramline stock. (would likely source a ruger stock for sale)


just thought i would Ask on here before getting too much more involved in selling off , nice guns.
 
Ardent said:
.350 Rem Mag is another, and 6.5 RM. .222 likely, .275 Rigby was a brief run, and the magnum RSM is gone taking the .458 Lott, .416 Rigby, and .375 H&H with it. I can think of many in the No.1.
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i bet you could Ardent man, but again not read through, mentions M77s.
appreciate it .
cheers rhys
 
Hoytcannon should be along soon. Hes a ruger fanboy.
Personally i could see myself paying a little more for a rarer chambering but unless im mistaken prices seem to be based more on condition then chambering. The oddballs seem to always be in better condition though. My thoughts are theyre bought by rifle enthusiasts just to have instead of the average joe hunter therefore better care is taken. I maybe off the mark but its how i see it played out more often than not

Glad you made it out safe. Ive heard alot of bush is gone
 
Your .35 Whelen in the Hawkeye series is not a special gun... they did several runs in several configurations, which means the "rarity" factor is low and will be superceded by condition... it sounds like the condition is not great, so don't expect to get alot for it... having said that, it will be worth more than a .270, .30/06, .243 or .308 in the same condition. Since the Hawkeye is the newest M77 iteration, there are more Hawkeye rifles on the market than there are M77 Mark II's or M77 Tang Safety rifles... if you had an M77 RS Tang .358 Win, it would go for north of $2000, where as the new special edition Hawkeye .358 sells for $1500.

Ruger as a company has gone down a new path for one of the large OEM manufacturers by partnering with large distributors who work more directly with consumers... the rolls have been reversed as to who is directing production... Lipsey's and TALO are two distributors that pre-order special runs in configurations for which they have high demand. This scenario is great for Ruger as a manufacturer, because the guns are pre-sold, the market is set before production begins, most of these non-catalogue configurations are generally unique and in high demand, they sell fast, but I have been noticing a shift within Ruger collectors, back to looking for factory original "catalogued" configurations and avoiding the Lipsey's et al "special runs." I would NOT say they are being paralleled to the Winchester commemorative Model 94's, but heading in that direction... but that is "collector quirkiness," for the average shooter/hunter, these special run firearms offer an opportunity to have a rifle in a chambering or configuration that would otherwise require a custom rifle and to have it at the going production rifle cost... which is great for the average Joe, and these rifles are quality productions, because Ruger has to meet the QC expectations of their LARGE distributor partners...
 
Discontinued, the 6mm Remington is still one of my favourites.

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I've got one of the new .358 win, dam nice rifle, shoots well, as do most Med bores, I should have bought one of the .260 stainless manlichers, when prophet river had them a year or two ago, one day I find one.
I think the limited runs, are worth perhaps a touch more, than standard chambers, as long as ammo is aviable, your in Australia so market may be different.
 
southernman said:
I think the limited runs, are worth perhaps a touch more, than standard chambers, as long as ammo is aviable, your in Australia so market may be different.
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Yeah this is a bit of a determining factor i think, the limited run of factory chamebred 35 whelens for example, that were sent to Australia were very thin, as all imports apart from the standards rem700s, tikkas etc..

Thanks for the well wishes and replies on the matter--
 
Slimbo said:
Slap a nice walnut stock on it and smash some game!
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slimbo, the walnut cracked so this ramline came about but originally i got the walnut for the blued (blacker), thought it would look good in the synthetic down the road.. never got the syn til too late :p

after all the fires an such, im almost about to get tha left hand a bolt in hand around end of the month- that will get set up pretty specifically with 1 load of 150gr woodleighs, then i think the Whelen is going to get some use- seeing as the deer are thin on the ground now, i may venture north into pig country and spend some time hunting those pests up on farmlands, i feel the Whelen will be in its element.
il keep you guys up to date!
 
SuperCub said:
My hunting partner has a M77 tanger in 358Win. Rare gun but ain't no safe queen either.
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Is it a 22" R-version or a 18.5" RS-carbine? The 22" R's are a fairly common gun, they made several runs of them, but there were only two runs of the Tang safety M77 RS carbines and one run of 25 of the M77 Mark II RS carbines...

Here are pics of the Tang RS .358 carbine (third down in the bottom pic) and the MKII RS .358 carbine (bottom rifle in the top pic);
 
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