IchBinEinSniper
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Found this on an Australian website... searched on here, didn't find anything. Did this die a premature death because it was ruled restricted from the look of an AR15?
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They said because the magazine lower uses a button and the bolt is an ar 15 bolt (that was built differently ie it spins it was made restricted.
It looks diffren't then the orginal protype so it might of been rebuilt as a new rifle altogther...
It looks diffren't then the orginal protype so it might of been rebuilt as a new rifle altogther...
IchBinEinSniper
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Sorry... it is a pump action rifle...
Yup, not much of a market for a restricted pump action AR. Pretty neat design really, and would be a great coyote gun - but we have to think of all of the panicked RCMP Lab Techs losing sleep over the thought of a gun that looks like a distant relative of an AR15 being "out there".
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Yep I remember when joe made that , but it was classed restricted.
$but this was before the ar180B came out if I remember right, wonder what would happen if it was changed a bit to reflect the ar180 design
$but this was before the ar180B came out if I remember right, wonder what would happen if it was changed a bit to reflect the ar180 design
It was a variant of the AR-15 because it was based off of the AR-15 receiver.
It also had a potential safety issue. An AR-15 was not designed to be a pump action, it was designed to be a semi-auto/auto. When you release the bolt on a semi-suto, it pushes the round into the chamber and closes on it. All is good. However, when you try and make it a pump action by just connecting the pump mechanism to the bolt carrier, you create the possibility (and high likelihood) of short stroking it, knocking a round into the chamber (without the extractor catching it), then stroking again and pushing the next round right into the back of the first round. Imagine the consequences of a nice pointy FMJ bullet being driven into the primer of a round already in the chamber... While its possible to do that with a semi-auto system, it's much less likely. And the bullet would probably hit the edge of the rim initially and cause a jam. It would in the pump action as well, but due to the nature of a pump action, the user is more likely to try to coax/force the round into the chamber (jiggling the pump mechanism, etc...) rather than clearing the jam.
It also had a potential safety issue. An AR-15 was not designed to be a pump action, it was designed to be a semi-auto/auto. When you release the bolt on a semi-suto, it pushes the round into the chamber and closes on it. All is good. However, when you try and make it a pump action by just connecting the pump mechanism to the bolt carrier, you create the possibility (and high likelihood) of short stroking it, knocking a round into the chamber (without the extractor catching it), then stroking again and pushing the next round right into the back of the first round. Imagine the consequences of a nice pointy FMJ bullet being driven into the primer of a round already in the chamber... While its possible to do that with a semi-auto system, it's much less likely. And the bullet would probably hit the edge of the rim initially and cause a jam. It would in the pump action as well, but due to the nature of a pump action, the user is more likely to try to coax/force the round into the chamber (jiggling the pump mechanism, etc...) rather than clearing the jam.
