I have the lee pace setter 3 die set in 223.lately I have been worried about the crease left on varget compressed loads. Especially on honady 68 and 75 bthp match bullets.the 75 I have worked to get a .45 moa at 200 and touch bigger at 300.i want to reload a few hundred of them,but I'm wondering if there is a die set that does not crease.also the seating die is always moving a touch which bothers me.
Do I need new die set.
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Pics of the crease thats created when using varget?
I have a flip phone,I can take pics with this tablet but have know idea how to then down load them,the wife does that but she is working in camp.it is around band at the .2 inch down from tip ,if I load without powder I'm good.was just wondering if a better quality die set would fix that.or is that just the nature of the beast for compressed loads.also the seating die is not stable it seats at different length after 3 shells loaded.i have ordered from bullseye some hornady measuring gauge last Friday to help my loading measurements.and now want my bullets seated the same overall length.the things I didn't worry about 4 years ago are not the same today lol.
I'm stealing from another member here who posted the tip (can't remember which thread it was though but it was a recent one I think) that if your tumbler is handy, holding the filled case - with your finger over the top(!) - against the center post of your tumbler while it's running will also settle the charge pretty quickly and free up a little space inside. Maybe worth a shot before shelling out for new dies?
I have vibrated the cases and it helps but still a crease.after the 300 plus 68,s i have left i will be sticking to 69 sierra which i just ordered a brick from tenda.the 75 shoot great for me and they are a mainstay.is the Forrester die set an improvement not the s series the one below that,will they offer a more exact seating depth or is that just me with the lee seating die.
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In another post someone mentioned benchrest dies not on the 68 mind you but 69 and 73 Berger,also stem replacement which I was unable to find,I'm not sure I'm asking the question right,I'm trying to figure out if the next tier up of seating dies such as redding or Forrester would do the same thing are they standard sized bushing for the dies.
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I would try another bullet seater in your die. I use to have something similar happen when using my set of Lyman .223 SB dies. It only happens when a load 62 grain FMJ's. 55 grain turn out perfect. I'm guessing it's the way the seater is pushing the 62 gr bullets that's causing the tip to be unsupported and then kinked.
Ok I tried the polishing described on accurate shooter,I used toothpaste because its all I have and in the future will polish dies because it took some burres out.it made a slight difference but not that much.im thinking of ordering the Forrester 2 part set at hirsh,it still might crease the bullets because I have found countless posts about the Hornady 68 and 75 bthp getting a ring with compressed loads.the posts don't describe their die set up.but maybe the seating depth won't move from initial setting like my lee do i also looked at redding but couldn't find anyone who had them in stock.
I use a lot of the 68gr Hornady. In a 223.
This is a load of 4895. Definite crunch on seating.
I use this now. Has a couple different seating stems. The VLD works fine for the 68gr and 77gr.
I just buy sizing dies now. As this does it all. Only thing is the micrometer on the top. I think they are backwards.
Got mine from Hirsch.
This is a load of 4895. Definite crunch on seating.
I use this now. Has a couple different seating stems. The VLD works fine for the 68gr and 77gr.
I just buy sizing dies now. As this does it all. Only thing is the micrometer on the top. I think they are backwards.
Got mine from Hirsch.
All my rifle seating dies are the Forsters and they are cheaper than the Redding dies and work just as well. The case and bullets are held in perfect alignment to reduce runout.
Contact Lee about a new seating stem for VLD type bullets. Cheap and it will fix your problem. - dan
All my rifle seating dies are the Forsters and they are cheaper than the Redding dies and work just as well. The case and bullets are held in perfect alignment to reduce runout.
Does runout mean the seating depth changing coal because of movement
