Does a 300 Weatherby have an advantage?
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Yes for beer, no for Weatherby
Just to be clear.
There's no advantage to the Weatherby unless you wish to define advantage as something other than simple practicality. I would like to own a Weatherby 257 mag someday just to get to know it. During such tenure of proprietorship I would attest to this caliber's many advantages. Then I would move on.
Let's go for beers.
Just to be clear.
There's no advantage to the Weatherby unless you wish to define advantage as something other than simple practicality. I would like to own a Weatherby 257 mag someday just to get to know it. During such tenure of proprietorship I would attest to this caliber's many advantages. Then I would move on.
Let's go for beers.
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Call it whatever you like but the fact is that it happened exactly as I posted.The recovered bullet weighed 160gr. after passing through a section of elk spine on a raking shot.Three people witnessed the shot distance and saw me recover the bullet pictured from the elk in question.Martinbns and Cat in the Hat who post here regularly have seen the velocities and groups produced by my loads and I am sure that they will tell that that I am known as a person that tells it like it is.Believe what you want.
True enough, Stubblejumpers guns are very accurate, custom jobs with Swarovski scopes. I will also confirm he loves high velocity. I guessed the 2900 fps earlier in this thread fro his TSX at 200 yards. I also don't doubt if he said that bullet pic took out the elk's spine and looked like he says.
Late getting into this discussion, but I used a 300Wby almost exclusively for about 7 years. With it I took bison, moose, bears, both species of deer, Stone's sheep, mountain goat and wolves. Before that I also used the 300Win for 3-4 years. I can't say I ever saw a difference in the field, but given a choice between the two I would take the Wby and never look back. The one caveat is that with a 300Wby I insist on a 26" barrel, with a 300Win I am happy with a 24".
ivo said:Let me guess, the bullet retained 110% of its weight(it actually gained weight) and you found it afterwards 10" deep inside a poplar behind the elk.Whatever. You must hunt with my brother.
A bullet like an X bullet somtimes gains weight when it is dug out of a animal.
Bits of flesh and bone stick to it, an are hard to clean out form behind the petals.
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Amphibious said:but..... but.... but....
it's faster! it must be better!!!
Quiet brain or I'll stab you with a Q-Tip!
Crusader_Sniper
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It's all BS in the end. Who cares!, buy whatever caliber causes your tire to squeal, whether it's a .22 or 50 cal and practice, practice...shot placement is the key....
I did not have a choice, I wanted a hunting rifle, the season was upon me and it was left handed (us lefties do not have many choices, so I took it in the 300 Weatherby)
Moral of the story:
Careful of the the guy who has just one rifle....chances are, he knows how to use it!
I did not have a choice, I wanted a hunting rifle, the season was upon me and it was left handed (us lefties do not have many choices, so I took it in the 300 Weatherby)
Moral of the story:
Careful of the the guy who has just one rifle....chances are, he knows how to use it!
I have Both, besides heavy price tag for brass, more powder to get the same rough velocity. I would say yes and no.
Theres no doubt a 300 wby there is more velocity
But theres no doubt a 300 wm will kill just as well
Theres no doubt a 300 wby there is more velocity
But theres no doubt a 300 wm will kill just as well
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I have owned both and would give the nod to the Wby. It has a longer case neck and allows bullets to be seated out farther. I was getting 3250fps with 180grs and just over 3000fps with 200grs. Same reason I would choose a 7mm Wby over a 7mm RM.
Weatherby took the 300 H&H cartridge and blew it out and sharpened the shoulder to make his 300 wby. If you're ever out of 300 wby ammo -- 300 H&H works just fine.
The 300 Win Mag was Winchester's way of shortening up the 300 H&H so it'll work in a shorter action with hopes of trimming the production costs while still delivering the power.
With most things there is a trade off. To gain on one hand you must sometimes give a little with the other. The 300 wby and 300 Win. Mag, as well as many more, all used the 300 H&H case. Actually it goes to the 375 H&H as it came first with the 300 H&H coming 13 yrs later as it's little bros.
The long tapered case fed easily through a rifle, the long neck made it very accurate as it stabilezed the bullet so well. the long tapered case also was very efficient in grs. of powder per velocity. But like i said, it's a trade off. Read your reloding manuals and you'll see. (Speer number 11)
The 300 WBY uses quite a bit of powder to increase velocity by 200 fps. This is hard on barrels and, of course,costs more for powder. But, the 300 WBY starts to pay it's way with heavier bullets. Once you're up to 200 gr bullets the 300 wby leaves the rest behind. And there is a big advantage to shooting 200 gr and 220 gr bullets over a 150 gr or even 180 gr bullets.
So for those long shots, delivering a 200 gr or 220 gr, 30 cal bullet with less drop and ample energy, the 300 Weatherby does pay it's way and that's one reason it's been so popular for so long .
Regards;
Rod
The 300 Win Mag was Winchester's way of shortening up the 300 H&H so it'll work in a shorter action with hopes of trimming the production costs while still delivering the power.
With most things there is a trade off. To gain on one hand you must sometimes give a little with the other. The 300 wby and 300 Win. Mag, as well as many more, all used the 300 H&H case. Actually it goes to the 375 H&H as it came first with the 300 H&H coming 13 yrs later as it's little bros.
The long tapered case fed easily through a rifle, the long neck made it very accurate as it stabilezed the bullet so well. the long tapered case also was very efficient in grs. of powder per velocity. But like i said, it's a trade off. Read your reloding manuals and you'll see. (Speer number 11)
The 300 WBY uses quite a bit of powder to increase velocity by 200 fps. This is hard on barrels and, of course,costs more for powder. But, the 300 WBY starts to pay it's way with heavier bullets. Once you're up to 200 gr bullets the 300 wby leaves the rest behind. And there is a big advantage to shooting 200 gr and 220 gr bullets over a 150 gr or even 180 gr bullets.
So for those long shots, delivering a 200 gr or 220 gr, 30 cal bullet with less drop and ample energy, the 300 Weatherby does pay it's way and that's one reason it's been so popular for so long .
Regards;
Rod
