Ive been toying with the idea of getting a just right carbine 9mm rifle for my wife and daughter to use for deer hunting. I know the age old adage is any bullet can kill and I've seen that philosophy in real life. but does a pistol round carry enough bang on arrival.
Does a 9mm pistol round have enough to drop a deer
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It would be marginal at best. If you want to hunt with pistol rounds, I personally would stay with .44 Mag or .45LC.
It is true that men are deer sized and we know 9mm works for that, however pistol range is darn close.
It is true that men are deer sized and we know 9mm works for that, however pistol range is darn close.
If its legal in your province/area and you are confident in your a abilities to get good shot placement I say go for it. It's not the caliber that makes it ethical or humain its the shot placement. if you can hit them in the right spot you could kill a deer with a rock if you hade to.
Wow, so as long as you hit a deer with perfect shot placement, a 22 short will suffice at 150 yards?
Again, keep it realistic, ethics are a HUGE part of hunting. Please don't use a cartridge that is not sufficient to kill quickly and humanely in the theatre you are hunting in.
Again, keep it realistic, ethics are a HUGE part of hunting. Please don't use a cartridge that is not sufficient to kill quickly and humanely in the theatre you are hunting in.
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Min I would go with is 357 mag. If legal in your area ---> as in model 92 wincherster or one of the clones
or 44 mag heavy cast bullets will work well under 100- 125 yds
Rifle is lighter than most (only thing lighter is a single shot) and you will be part way set up for SASS
or 44 mag heavy cast bullets will work well under 100- 125 yds
Rifle is lighter than most (only thing lighter is a single shot) and you will be part way set up for SASS
just to clear one thing up I'm not talking 100 yard plus shots, in Manitoba the bulk of hunters do hunt the general season for me however my primary hunting season is archery season so most shot we take are in the35-longest 45 yard range even with fire arms. I guess the next question is does any body have a down range ke chart for the 9 mm round and the .45 round the rifle im considering is available in both calibers
Exactly! I stand tall with you! It makes me sick when I read about "shot placement" that is harped about by some of these fools that talk about it and condone minamal cartridges for hunting. Shot placement is very important indeed, but so is a cartridge of full sufficiency to do it quickly and humanely.
So come on mouth pc cowboy, lets dance, lets rock! "Shot placement, good enough"? I got a sxs full for you, boy! Talk to me!
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Brutus
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A levergun in .357 or .44 Magnum using full power ammunition would be superior choices. Maybe look around for a Ruger Deerfield instead?
Chances are very high you will just end up feeding the local coyotes with a 9mm carbine.
If you are choosing this only on the basis of shooter/hunter comfort, then they are not ready for big game hunting IMO.
Sorry, but that's my swing on it.
Chances are very high you will just end up feeding the local coyotes with a 9mm carbine.
If you are choosing this only on the basis of shooter/hunter comfort, then they are not ready for big game hunting IMO.
Sorry, but that's my swing on it.
I think that would be the general consensus among the vast majority of shooters and hunters that I know.Since we offering opinions here I would say that a 9mm would be just about dead last as a caliber on my list for hunting deer or just about anything else.If you were in a survival situation maybe,you do what you have to do but we are not talking survival here.
See if you can pick up a ruger .44 mag carbine if your looking for a lightweight pistol caliber. It doesn't have to much steam in a rifle to make it uncomfortable to shoot, and should get you out to about 100 yards. And from my recent experience, will put a sufficiently large hole in a deer! I am impressed! You should be able to find a good used one for less than JR, and with an added bonus that it actually looks like a deer gun! I owned a JR, and while it was a neat little toy.... That puny little 9mm cartridge would inspire absolutely no confidence in me while deer hunting!
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Give the kid a chance and get her a 6.5 or a 7 Mauser, or even a gently loaded .270, .308 or .30/06 class cartridge (130 gr TTSXs at 2600 are good deer killers). A 9mm pistol cartridge, even if loaded with 147 gr bullets should be classified as an expert's gun, not a beginner's. The important thing for a kid's gun is a good fit (with a quality recoil pad) to the shooter, combined with light weight and ease of handling for a smaller statured individual. Beyond that, she needs a good trigger and sights she can use, just like everyone else. Then she needs to spend enough time with it to master the fundamentals of marksmanship, before she's put in the field. The kids on our family got .30/06 Husky 1600 series commercial carbines in .30/06, so did my wife, and those rifles loaded with good quality, light weight bullets make a superior hunting rig to a little carbine loaded with pistol ammo. My grandson, unbeknownst to him yet, just got a 7-08 Mauser courtesy of WhyNot . . . who is quickly becoming my primary rifle purveyor.
My grandson shooting Gramma's '06 with 130 gr TTSXs @ 2600. Note the fit of the 12" LOP.
As to this business of shot placement, yes it matters, but in what area of human endeavor, is the novice likely to get it just right? So it is with shooting game. Not only might the shot have to be made under the pressure of very tight time constraints, on a moving target, particularly if the shot occurs at close range. The youngster might well have a greater emotional attachment to the deer than a seasoned adult, then there's the pressure of not wanting to disappoint Dad. Under such circumstances, perfect shot placement might be charitably referred to as unlikely. The chances of a happy outcome go up exponentially if a suitable cartridge is chambered in that rifle.
My grandson shooting Gramma's '06 with 130 gr TTSXs @ 2600. Note the fit of the 12" LOP.
As to this business of shot placement, yes it matters, but in what area of human endeavor, is the novice likely to get it just right? So it is with shooting game. Not only might the shot have to be made under the pressure of very tight time constraints, on a moving target, particularly if the shot occurs at close range. The youngster might well have a greater emotional attachment to the deer than a seasoned adult, then there's the pressure of not wanting to disappoint Dad. Under such circumstances, perfect shot placement might be charitably referred to as unlikely. The chances of a happy outcome go up exponentially if a suitable cartridge is chambered in that rifle.
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It's total crap. I've shot several deer at close range with a 147gr hollowpoint in the 9mm and it is complete and total garbage. At ranges measured in single digit feet it was effective so what does that tell you about overall performance?
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Thank you for voicing an experienced opinion! I totally agree!
