Does anyone have any clue as to what this gun is and what it may be chambered in?

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https://kelvinstaxidermyandgunshop.ca/shop/enfield-577-snider/

The page says Enfield 577 snider, but that feels very wrong, I don't think thats right, I don't think rolling blocks where made by Enfield (i could be wrong, I'm no expert) and it just doen't seem right that its cambered in 577 snider, thats a very big round and that barrel doesn't look that big.

To me, in my very non-expert opinion, it looks like a Remington Rolling block, and the barrel looks about as thick as the ones chambered in 12 mm.

This is just something kinda bothering me, and it is a rolling block for a good price, so I am interested in it. Any info or best guesses would be appreciated.
 
Ya the description does say 1861 Rolling block. And the Enfield.577 Snider's seem to be a side latch breech block. I'd say it's probably a Remington rolling block or knock off of it. Is it possible it has had barrel work done to accommodate .577 Snider?
 
Some early rolling blocks were made of parts sourced from muzzleloading arms much like other conversion guns of the era. I'm not sure the details of which countries did it with which rifles but I do know there were rolling blocks made in 58 calibers.

The action is definitely capable of using that size shell as I've also seen rolling blocks in 20ga, 16ga, and even 12ga.
 
Ribstaylor said:
Ya the description does say 1861 Rolling block. And the Enfield.577 Snider's seem to be a side latch breech block. I'd say it's probably a Remington rolling block or knock off of it. Is it possible it has had barrel work done to accommodate .577 Snider?
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Thats right, the sniders are side latch breech lock, thats like the dead giveaway that something is wrong lol.
I've seen a forum elsewhere of people basically going back and forth on if the larger rolling blocks were strong enough to accommodate .577 snider, i dont see why not as long as it wasnt one of the small caliber ones.
 
vagrantviking said:
Some early rolling blocks were made of parts sourced from muzzleloading arms much like other conversion guns of the era. I'm not sure the details of which countries did it with which rifles but I do know there were rolling blocks made in 58 calibers.

The action is definitely capable of using that size shell as I've also seen rolling blocks in 20ga, 16ga, and even 12ga.
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Thats true, I did see that mentioned on a different forum.

And thats a good point, all of those are bigger around than the .577 snider. Hard to tell what it is by a single picture tho.
 
vagrantviking said:
Some early rolling blocks were made of parts sourced from muzzleloading arms much like other conversion guns of the era. I'm not sure the details of which countries did it with which rifles but I do know there were rolling blocks made in 58 calibers.

The action is definitely capable of using that size shell as I've also seen rolling blocks in 20ga, 16ga, and even 12ga.
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Some Rolling Blocks? The primary use of Rolling Block actions, was to sell to countries around the world, as a cheaper way to convert their Military Armory stock, from muzzle loaders to cartridge firing guns.

Depending on how cheap they wanted to be, they could reuse almost all the parts off the old weapons, with a nice new Rolling Block action in the middle.

Both the Snider Action, and the Trapdoor, were marketed the same way.

Yeah, I can see them using a Roller in an old Enfield muzzle loader, and chambering it for the 577 Snyder round.
 
It is not unusual to see mislabeled photos on Kelvin's website. I saw a number of examples when I perused the listings a few days ago. I recall seeing that roller, as well as a mislabeled Krag and others. The website can also be a little out of date. One item I purchased several months ago is still listed.
 
B_noser said:
It is not unusual to see mislabeled photos on Kelvin's website. I saw a number of examples when I perused the listings a few days ago. I recall seeing that roller, as well as a mislabeled Krag and others. The website can also be a little out of date. One item I purchased several months ago is still listed.
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Yeah I noticed some mislabeled stuff, but I didn't know it was that out of date, that's certainly a bit concerning to know.
 
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