does anyone know how to get the cleaning rod retainer out of a mosin?

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I have an izzy 91-30. For some reason the cleaning rod stop (the threaded piece that stays in the stock) won't accept the cleaning rod. I checked the rod and its ok (threads into one of my other mosins). so the rod stop has got to come out. problem is I can't get it out without mucking up the stock. There must be a way to get it out. If anyone knows how Thank you in advance for your help.
 
Most of them are in there good & tight. The only way out is to drill a hole in the bottom of the stock & pound it out with a punch. Thats what the Finns did anywhoo.
 
You could also drill a hole in the top of the nut, tap it for a small screw & try to pull it out but I have had very limited success with that method.
 
Do the hole method, then fill the hole with a small dowel, and repair the finish. This is the only successful way and that is a very common problem. You may just want to live with it though.
 
That little block looks like a truncated pyramid; you could try prying it up with two sharp cold chisels. Wood compression won't be noticeable from the outside.
There's a chance the guy who pressed it in the stock put the hole at right angles with the cleaning rod channel. If discovered, there's also a chance he bought a ticket for an elite gunsmith training workshop in Siberia...
PP.
 
thank you to all for your answers to my question

I will try the drill and tap method first (maybe I will get lucky who knows) failing that I may just live with it I hate the look of patches in stocks. Thanks again for all of your help I appreciate it.
 
Instead of trying to taking it out, why not shine a light down the channel and see if it just needs a little tapping one way or another to align the hole better. Precision parts Mosins do not have.
 
Could be simple debris in the cleaning rod channel ? I have run into this with my Mausers, some of which you cannot remove the cleaning rod nut.

My method was to first put the stock on it's nose over a towel, and lightly tap into the floor. This would get rid of some of the loose debris. For the rest, I would take the cleaning rod, place it into the channel, wrap the end in a thin towel, and lightly tap it with a hammer. This would gradually force the cleaning rod past or through the debris and enable lock up. If no lock up occurs, I would repeat the first step of tapping the nose and loose any new debris that would come out.

Saves you from drilling any holes in the end.
 
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