does anyone know what this is?

[drslav]

this old shotgun was was given to me by my wives grandfather.
i have never seen anything like it. it is in rough condition and i would like to find out anything i can about it, and possibly make it look a bit better.
i doubt it will ever work though.i believe its 16 ga
there is no markings on it whatsoever...anyways...here it is
any info is appreciated thank you

 

[savage express]

Hey, it's Gun's and Roses.

 

[gimmethepumpkin]

Hey, it's Gun's and Roses.

OH MY GOD! That is quite possibly the funniest thing I've seen.

As for the gun, I've no idea. Looks cool though.

 

[marshall]

looks like a reminton rolling block "shotgun"
with some homemade wood stock and forend on it.
P.S. I am on dial up and your pictures are so big , takes lond
time to down load large photos, just saw the other pictures,
and it looks more like a remi. copy -made in begium or
shake in back yard- kinda has a flowbert type action.
Do not try to shoot that thing.

 

[muckle]

That's cool I love oldes also

 

[tigrr]

I have books going back to 1897 and it isn't in any of mine!!
Cool old gun though.

 

[drslav]

yes the stock and forend is not original...I WILL NOT SHOOT IT either...
as for pics check my photobucket smaller pics
http://s581.photobucket.com/home/drslav75
anyone else may know please post.

 

[drslav]

looks a bit like this
http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/tos/printv/5776
doesnt it?

 

[drslav]

can this post be moved to antiques? i realize i should have posted it there...
thank you

 

[Winchested]

Looks like the metal probably survived a fire and the stocks were toasted to a crisp. But yes it does look like a rolling block.

 

[ben hunchak]

It's a much disturbed Rolling Block, with the amount of alterations to the action, it looks like a wall hanger. Most rolling block shotguns/conversions where 20 Gauge.

 

[catnthehatt]

To me it looks like one of those back alley type guns from Pakistan that they crank out and ship over here!
I would not go near that thang with a cartridge!
Cat

 

[boltonscouter]

Too cool!!!!! My first impression was homemade??????

 

[cote_b]

Im going to second the idea that its a remington rollingblock

 

[catnthehatt]

Im going to second the idea that its a remington rollingblock

Oh, it's a roller alright, but I don't think it ever saw the Remington factory!!
Cat

 

[a j cave]

Rem rolling block copy. May be a cast copy. I shoot a couple but not that one.

 

[drslav]

now i will tell you ...could be a copy. and its no more than a wall hanger. i keep it at my mother in laws house in CUBA.
still goes click and click...but its too far gone to repair. the barrel has actually been welded in a couple of spots and trigger group too. all i was intending to do is just make it look a bit better to hang on the wall. but i imagine parts will be impossible to find

 

[cote_b]

Oh, it's a roller alright, but I don't think it ever saw the Remington factory!!
Cat

A remington copy then? Im pretty sure the rolling block is a remington design, no?

 

[sillymike]

Tradeex is selling some... in somewhat better shape...

7154- Swedish 1867 Rolling Block in 16 GA

 

[vagrantviking]

I have a couple of rolling block shotguns that came from Tradeex. One is a 12ga Husky that is in excellent shape and I shoot regularly.

The second is 20ga and bears quite a resemblance to the one in the OP but in a bit better shape. I was a bit leery of shooting it but my father (who does a fair amount of gun building and smithing) decided to give it a whirl with black powder. After a few cautious tests he now shoots it at BP matches now and then.

A surprising number of rolling blocks were made and exported my Remington and many were made under Remingtons license around the world. There is no doubt that quite a few cheap knock-offs were made as well. Its one of the simplest actions ever designed and could be made by someone with a few files, a drill and some time.