Does Remington warranty cover accuracy? **target pics**

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Took my 597 TVP out to the range once again today and I have had enough. This gun has about 1500 rounds through it now, all at targets trying to get it to group. I have tried 12 types of ammo and 3 scopes. the gun has been taken apart right down to the last spring in the bolt, cleaned and reassembled twice. The scopes have been adjusted almost obsessively for parrallax before shooting. I have tried shooting it with and without the cocking lever. The thing functions perfectly....it just doesn't SHOOT.

Here' a few targets from today to illustrate my point. Most of the ammo was winchester PP as I have found it to group the best. Targets have 1" circles, the squares are 1" as well. I also always dump the first round of a semi into the dirt when target shooting with my semis just so that the bolt cycling is always consistent.

This is at 25 yards with PP, the top right is by far the tightest group it has EVER shot, the bottom left is my cooey 75 with irons shooting bulk pack
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25 yards with PP
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25 yards top left Federal, top right yellow jacket, bottom american eagle
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50 yards with PP bottom right is the cooey again
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Any ideas, do you think Remington will give me a new gun if I send it back?
The only thing I am kinda worried about is I have a lot of work in my trigger group and I would like to keep it (the gun shot the same before I did the trigger). Do you think they would let me keep the old trigger, or would they blame it for the accuracy issue if I brought it up?

I have many more targets with all the other ammunition trials as well. I also have a couple from shooting a friends yellow jacket and does that thing work good. (his stock doesn't even fit correctly and his bedding screws were loose) he would even load a couple of each brand into one mag just to p*ss me off when it still grouped way better than my gun
 
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"...I did the trigger...think Remington will give me a new gun if I send it back?..." Nope.
"What is not covered by this warranty?
We will not cover damage of your firearm caused by:
Failure to provide proper care and maintenance
Accidents, abuse or misuse
Barrel obstruction
Hand loaded, reloaded or improper ammunition
Unauthorized adjustments, repairs or modifications
Normal wear and tear."
 
I would check the barrel and the crown. If everything else checks out OK, maybe there is a problem with the bore.
I would try a different barrel. You could be lucky to get a new barrel from Remington.
I hope you'll find the problem and will be happy with the rifle soon.
 
Something isn't right here. You mention that you've disassembled the rifle twice, cleaned it and reassembled. How clean is the bore? Does it look good (sharp rifling, a dry patch doesn't snag on any rough material left behind)?

Were you cleaning between different types/manufacturers of ammo?

Mine starts to shoot tight groups AFTER about 20 rounds of Winchester Wildcat are run through it. A super cleaning and the groups start to open up again. Many .22's seem finicky as to which ammo they like but from the sounds of what you describe here ammo may not be your problem.

Be patient and one of the 597 experts will drop by here soon....
 
remington doesnt handle the warrentee in kanada the Michel Gravel agency does and i wouldnt hold your breath on anything happenning either.
 
To answer a few questions - No I do not clean between ammo changes as I am not looking to win any competitions I just want reasonable results. I also "foul" the barrel after cleaning before shooting groups.

I took the gun right down tonight and had a close look at the barrel, everything looks good except for the chamber face (not sure if that is even a term, but I am using it). upper left side of the chamber there is a defect in the metal that looks like it missed machining.

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Not sure if that would have any negative effects or not
 
Is remington is dumping all the seconds on Canada or is the quality control is really slipping? I have heard far fewer complaints from the us side but they can send it back direct to remington whilst we cant and we are stuck with the importer that doesnt Care:mad:.
 
Buy a plain-jane 597 and swap parts around until you figure out what the problem is. Reassemble one of the rifles back to factory condition using the defective part and send it off for warranty repair. Shoot the "good" rifle until the bad one comes back and then sell whichever one you like the least. You won't break even, but at least you'll have an accurate rifle to shoot while the other one is getting fixed.
 
I cant' just use plain jane, It's a stainless heavy barrel. If I do send it away it won't be until October. It still will hit a gopher, sometimes it just takes two shots without adjusting my aim:rolleyes:
 
I'd love to comment, but I'm having accuracy issues with my plain 597 as well, though I strongly suspect it'll be resolved with a new hammer/trigger. I know it isn't user error because I have my bronze, silver and gold (CSSA?) patches for bullseye rifle shooting from prone, kneeling and standing.
 
That chamber face is normal....at least was the same on the 2 597's that I had. Make sure the action screws aren't too long and bottoming out. If so, shorten them and then when you tighten them in, don't just snug them in, crank them in tight. Also, run some cci blazers though it. These couple of things greatly improved my accuracy.
 
The rifle is shooting well at times and not others. Check barrel contact with the forend and check the bedding under the action. If there is barrel contact
when and where it shouldn't it may cause this sporadic accuracy from inconsistent pressure on the barrel. The bedding should hold the action
consistently in the stock. If there is movement in the action area the same
inconsistency will result. This can even happen with synthetic stocks.

If you don't get success with the Canadian dealer or distributor you may want to contact Remington direct and explain to them nicely your dilemna
and your contact with the Cdn representative. This may light a fire under the
Cdn rep. I had a 504 that I did just that with and the rifle was rebarreled !
That 504 still doesn't shoot as well as my Anschutz 1712.
 
crappy luck! .. my TVP is great! Pulled it out of the box two nights ago, cleaned it and put some Dynapoints and Minimags through it that shot right around an inch with the odd flyer at 50 yards. I am a happy camper. I can't understand why the accuracy should vary so much from one 597 to another. No FTE's, one FTF after it got dirty.

Who IS the Remington rep in Canada anyway??
 
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Put a post or check the Remington section at "Rimfirecentral.com".

Also, I believe there was a problem if you tighten the guide rods for the recoil springs too much.
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buffdog said:
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Put a post or check the Remington section at "Rimfirecentral.com".

Also, I believe there was a problem if you tighten the guide rods for the recoil springs too much.
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Yuppers RFC is a good place to check, and make sure those set screws for the guide rods are finger tight only otherwise they can actually put a little bend on the rods and the bolt will not function properly. I made that mistake once.
 
(Ronin) said:
Well you can't compare a Cooey to a Remington.
Cooey's will outshoot them every time
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I would think you had better "qualify" which Remingtons you are talking about here. I have a couple of 541's and a 504 that no Cooey [and I like Cooeys] will even come close to as to accuracy. Regards, Eagleye
 
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