Does tenda have to supply the feds with gun owner information?

Are you serious? You know nothing about this? The feds have lost track of over 1/2 million Indians who entered the country under false pretences (student visa) then claimed “asylum” once they landed . While awaiting processing as asylum seekers .. they simply disappeared from the govt’s radar …
Source? When I try to Google these claims I get 50k students, 20k of which are Indian?
 
Are you serious? You know nothing about this? The feds have lost track of over 1/2 million Indians who entered the country under false pretences (student visa) then claimed “asylum” once they landed . While awaiting processing as asylum seekers .. they simply disappeared from the govt’s radar …
First of all, not relevant to the OP or thread.
Second, how about a source for this claim?
Third, why does every discussion about firearm policy have to devolve into a peri-racial, anti-immigrant tirade by some ignorant agendist?

500,000 people!? Really!?
And these are "Dangerous" and problematic!? It doesn't seem so.

Aren't there forums more akin to your BS that you would feel more comfortable in?
 
Well, it wouldn't help with previously restricted firearms for sure.
I haven't transferred a "Newly Prohib" firearm.
Is there a stipulation against transferring "newly Prohibited" firearms in the system?
I'm sure you're right and there is.

I guess ya, water/fire damage from AOG is what we all have to hope for.
Dang.

Let me give an example. You bought a Ruger PCC. 1 month later they banned it. If you didn't put in for a reference number in that month then the assumption will be you still have the Ruger PCC.
 
Let me give an example. You bought a Ruger PCC. 1 month later they banned it. If you didn't put in for a reference number in that month then the assumption will be you still have the Ruger PCC.
Ya I know.
It just didn't occur to me that they wouldn't allow the transfer of "newly Prohib" guns. but of course they would.
duh.
 
Canoe rentals will be a pretty good business to be in right now
Trouble is if you lose your gun in a boating accident/fire etc, and you do not report it as lost, you are in contravention to the law and subject to charges. Watch the video I posted on the previous page. Ron Gilekta from CCFR tells it pretty plainly.
 
Anyone else find it funny that 2x my post about them likely providing the pal information to the Chinese government keeps getting deleted.

Odd..

Almost like they have the lowest prices in Canada because their profit isn’t cash it’s information.

Just an uneducated guess by someone who’s done a tad bit of research.

My opinion is just that my opinion of course but you all can do the same research.
 
Trouble is if you lose your gun in a boating accident/fire etc, and you do not report it as lost, you are in contravention to the law and subject to charges. Watch the video I posted on the previous page. Ron Gilekta from CCFR tells it pretty plainly.

Section 105 of the criminal code, to be specific:

Losing or finding

105 (1) Every person commits an offence who

(a) having lost a prohibited firearm, a restricted firearm, a non-restricted firearm, a prohibited weapon, a restricted weapon, a prohibited device, any prohibited ammunition, an authorization, a licence or a registration certificate, or having had it stolen from the person’s possession, does not with reasonable despatch report the loss to a peace officer, to a firearms officer or a chief firearms officer; or
 
First of all, not relevant to the OP or thread.
Second, how about a source for this claim?
Third, why does every discussion about firearm policy have to devolve into a peri-racial, anti-immigrant tirade by some ignorant agendist?

500,000 people!? Really!?
And these are "Dangerous" and problematic!? It doesn't seem so.

Aren't there forums more akin to your BS that you would feel more comfortable in?
It doesn’t matter
They are now here ILLEGALLY and are criminals
The amount if expired visas including student and refugee claims is over 1 million for just last year and expected to be 2 million more this year alone.
If you dont think Canada has a problem with mass Indian immigration then you must live in the Yukon.
 
All businesses are required to keep records going back 7 years for audit purposes. After that they can all be destroyed. I am not sure if there are more restrictions on firearms retailers or not. I wouldn't think so. In theory, they should have everything gone from 2019 and before. Some companies have been primarily digital since then, and may keep electronic records as it is easier to store one USB drive than 25 Banker's Boxes loaded with paper taking up an abundance of storage space.
 
I would think all larger computerized firearms dealers would have electronic records saved with firearm info linked to the purchaser and the date. Since the requirement for transfer numbers this info would also be saved. I did try to look up an order I made to Cabela’s for a gun now on the list, in Oct of 22 and they have no record available for that sale available to me even though I supplied all the info they wanted.

Smaller mom pop shops may use a manual ledger but I would say in this day and age, at even the small shops, most sales and transfer info are kept on a computer. That being said the local Canadian tire still keeps manual ledger for ammo purchase but not sure what they do for firearms.

This info must be made available to the policing agency or CFO on demand. No business will play games if asked for the information simply to stop you from being investigated or queried.
Having actually worked in, or at least consulted with, several Canadian Tire Stores in the Okanagan -- as well as working daily in the Oliver store for another whole year, I can say that all of those stores only keep the paper ledgers.

We do not have time or the interest to enter all the firearms that come into our store computers manually with all the serial numbers, descriptions and other attendant BS not to mention PAL information and Transfer Reference Numbers at point of sale. So, there is that.

The paper records do exist, but we have never been asked for them and it would be a bear of a job -- but doable certainly -- to go through them and link each individual sale after May 2022 to an an individual by PAL and Transfer Reference and in any event we never SOLD any great number of rifles that were in "the list" after that date.

Any before that date, good luck. As no PAL or Transfer Reference was recorded before it became required, "Yes, we sold THIS gun on THAT date, but we kept no record as to whom."

I would imagine many if not most shops would be similar. We have better things to do than to key punch information into a computer when it's not specifically required to be electronic data.

I get enough grief out of customers who obviously have a lot more time than I do to whine about the fact that there's no way to view our firearms inventory online because "I don't have time to do it.". Yeah, well, that has it's hidden advantages.
 
All businesses are required to keep records going back 7 years for audit purposes. After that they can all be destroyed. I am not sure if there are more restrictions on firearms retailers or not. I wouldn't think so. In theory, they should have everything gone from 2019 and before. Some companies have been primarily digital since then, and may keep electronic records as it is easier to store one USB drive than 25 Banker's Boxes loaded with paper taking up an abundance of storage space.

I'm pretty sure there's a 20 year stipulation on the records in question now.
 
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