DPMS .308 AR - restricted?

[Claven2]

Anyone know fir certain if the .308 DPMS AR type rifle is classed as an "AR Variant" in Canada and therefore restricted?

 

[foxbat]

Affirmative on the restricted status!

 

[Claven2]

bummer

 

[Scarecrow]

The only REAL AR10's arent made by anyone anymore, so you wont ever see a non-restricted one.

 

[Claven2]

I dunno, Armalite as the owner of the Armalite name (AR10 patents too? Probably expired anyhow) could theoretically decide to exactly reproduce the orignal AR10 in a semi-only factory config. Such a gun would be non-restricted in Canada, wouldn't it?

 

[KevinB]

NO ALL the AR10 variants are now restricted -- except the EARLY semi auto ones. ANY NEW one would be restricted

 

[Scarecrow]

Yes such a gun would be non-rest in Canada. Problem is that Armalite has no reason to make it. They make for US customers 1st, us last. They arent going to make 2 different kinds of AR10 unless US customers force them to. They have made special edition models that look like the origionals, but they arent close internally.

 

[Scarecrow]

ANY NEW one would be restricted

Not if its a real deal AR10 design like a sudanese contract gun but without the auto sear.

 

[KevinB]

Scarecrow -- trust me CFC would restrict it - it it took one common part with the AR10 or AR15...

 

[olek_Z_bc]

I think that KevinB is unfortunatly right. just look how the dlask pump gun got treated :roll:

 

[Scarecrow]

I think that KevinB is unfortunatly right. just look how the dlask pump gun got treated :roll:

They dint sacrifice the correct number of chickens to the voodoo CFC chief.

 

[olek_Z_bc]

LOL.... yeah and instead of dressing up the pump gun in wood and having it green or blue they left it black..... and "evil" looking :roll:

in any case the laws are so f*c*d up that, ah well nevermind...

 

[HeadDamage]

LOL... all it takes is a nice safe looking paint job and the status changes

 

[RobSmith]

Kinda makes you wonder if you could use another trigger mech design and mag release but keep the buffer/tube so you could have an upper that functions just like an AR and just <might> pas CFC approval, whaddya think ?

 

[Scarecrow]

Kinda makes you wonder if you could use another trigger mech design and mag release but keep the buffer/tube so you could have an upper that functions just like an AR and just <might> pas CFC approval, whaddya think ?

I think there is no chance in hell.
Dlask made a completely different gun and it got labelled an AR15.

 

[RobSmith]

Kinda makes you wonder if you could use another trigger mech design and mag release but keep the buffer/tube so you could have an upper that functions just like an AR and just <might> pas CFC approval, whaddya think ?

I think there is no chance in hell.
Dlask made a completely different gun and it got labelled an AR15.

IIRC the classification of the pump gun is currently being appealed, also IIRC, the pump gun used a <slightly modified> AR lower, but kept the trigger mech and mag well/mags/mag release ... So I just don't see how the RCMP forensics types had any choice but to call it a variant ... Please correct me if i'm wrong on this one.

 

[Hitzy]

Kinda makes you wonder if you could use another trigger mech design and mag release but keep the buffer/tube so you could have an upper that functions just like an AR and just <might> pas CFC approval, whaddya think ?

I think there is no chance in hell.
Dlask made a completely different gun and it got labelled an AR15.

IIRC the classification of the pump gun is currently being appealed, also IIRC, the pump gun used a <slightly modified> AR lower, but kept the trigger mech and mag well/mags/mag release ... So I just don't see how the RCMP forensics types had any choice but to call it a variant ... Please correct me if i'm wrong on this one.

Trigger components and mags have nothing to do with it, the AR180B uses AR15 trigger components and mags and it's non-restricted.

 

[RobSmith]

Trigger components and mags have nothing to do with it, the AR180B uses AR15 trigger components and mags and it's non-restricted.

What is it then that makes a "variant" ? The geometry of the lower receiver ? Seems to me like that one would be easy to fix ... BUT if ont he other hand we use the AR-180B's lesson (same geometry but different trigger mech/mag well), then simply using a different trigger mech and mag well and you <should> be golden ...