dram equivilant

You can NOT equate Drams to grains of SMOKELESS because of the diff. burning rates/ and pressure levels in the "Progressive burning", trying is extremely dangerous. That's why they use the word equivalent(from a velocity standpoint). Black powder is a different story and approx. 30 grains equals 1 dram.
 
oh dont worry im not trying to commit hari cari . it just that i was wondering
if there was some type of math formula . all im trying to do expand my knowledge a bit
 
I believe that a dram is unit of volume, while of course a grain is a unit of weight. If so, there cannot be a conversion between them without knowing the specific gravity of the thing you are weighing.
 
I'm not even sure why they bother listing dram equivalent anymore. Honestly, 100 years ago it may have been useful, but I fail to see how it is useful today.
 
A dram is a unit of weight, just like a grain. In the avoirdupois system (as differentiated from the apothecaries system), a dram is 1/16 of an ounce. An avoirdupois grain is 1/700th of a pound. 7000gr/lb / (16oz/lb * 16dr/oz) = 27.34gr/dr. This comes up in muzzleloading sometimes because original writings generally gave powder charge weights in drams (with fractions of 1/4dr[6.8gr] or sometimes 1/8dr[3.4gr]) until well into the 19th century.

The use of "dram-equivalents" in shotgun cartridge info is a rather archaic holdover from the early days of smokeless powder, in the days before shotgun velocities were commonly measured. It was used to give shooters a comparison of the velocity with the "known" B.P. load performance that they were familiar with, and apparently was not that precise to start with.

Regards,
Joel
 
Joel has it right on the money. I have a chart of which velocity/dram/shot wt/guage if you are wondering on anything specific. eg 1200fps/3dr/1 1/8ozshot/12ga.
 
I chronographed some 3 dram loads of 2F black powder in a 12 guage and got under 1100 fps. It was at least 50 fps slower than factory 3 dram equivalent smokeless loads

cheers mooncoon
 
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