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Wondering how much (or if any) a matching WW2 K98 that has been duffle cut would detract from an un-cut version of the same? A value in percentage would be fine. The repair on this particular rifle is nicely done although it's noticeable. Assuming it's done properly and a nice job maybe somebody could provide me with an answer.

Thanks.

Sorry no pictures yet, hope to have them up in the next couple of days!
 
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Smart duffle cuts were made under the band - invisible when the rifle is assembled.
If the cut is exposed, I would expect a dramatic loss of value.
 
It really all depends, some people like duffle cuts and some don’t.
It is proof it was a vet bring back and that the rifle was there. It’s part of the
rifles history just like shrapnel in a stock, etc...
I have a few duffle cut rifles and I like them. It doesn’t really detract.
Depends a lot on the code, condition, rifling, blueing, etc for price.
 
If it was was a Messerschmidt ME-109 fuselage swastika cutout section with a few
50 caliber bullet holes in it, maybe it adds to the history, just like a duffle cut K98 stock.
 
I had a duffle cut Belgian 1889 Mauser once. I immediately returned it as I bought it as a complete rifle not as a cut one. Just because it was duffle cut doesn't mean the cut was done during WWII, it could also have been done in the post war years. As to the part of the history, that is true, however so is the mass sporterization of rifles post war, and I don't particularly desire those for my collection either.

To each their own, but personally I have next to no interest in one with a duffle cut so to me the value is pretty low.
 
Correction....as I stated in original post rifle was "all matching", bolt matches itself but does not match rifle. With the exception of bolt, the numbers on rifle itself are matching!

While the repair on the duffle cut is of "sound" repair work, agreed it should have been done (in my opinion) in a much less noticeable way. I guess that's the way it was done when it was brought back after the war and it is, what it is!

Anyhow any value on this one, duffle cut as opposed to non-duffle cut!

I understand there are those out there that seem to think that the idea of a duffle cut is part of it's history which it is, but I'd certainly prefer it without!

It's still a nice example in it's own way!

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A nice bolt mismatch, how can you not like!

Keep it as a place holder if you think you will find a nicer one someday.

Nothing wrong with a duffle cut, I like it. I would buy it. Some of the purest elitist snobs on here won’t! Lol
 
The duffle cut is in a sad spot but repaired well. The issue is the coat of stain, it’s nasty and doesn’t look anything like original stock finish. You could probably remove it carefully, there’s info on how to redo it. Other then it looks like a decent bolt mm.
 
I agree with most of the others. From my experience duffle cuts really don't seem to effect value much. As long as they are done under the rear band and weren't a complete butcher job, or haven't suffered from a botched repair. I have a few honest rifles with duffle cuts and its never bothered me. Its history written right into the rifle, and other than capture papers or very strong personal provenance they are one of the only good indications that a rifle was indeed a vet bring back.
 
Thanks all for your input. Interesting responses! To me I'd rather not have the duffle cut but yes it's part of the history. Too bad the bolt does not match to the rifle!

If you so desired you could get a replacement stock; Liberty Tree Collectors has used ones that would still stay genuine to the military theme more so then a new one.
 
Duffle cuts don't bother me at all.

The truth is a lot of rifles were cut down AFTER they were surplussed back in the day. Usually in exactly the same manner as the one in the pics.

If that stock had been cut by a soldier, trying to hide it in a "duffel bag" The pieces would be done in a manner to keep them as short as possible.

I have a Boer stock from a 95 Mauser that Bubba got ahold of to sporterize. To bad, because it was one of the personalised rifles with quite elaborate engraving on the buttstock that showed it was a gift from one friend to a friend.

It was cut in the same manner described by Tiriaq.

It's worthless but makes for a great conversation piece.

Mismatched bolt, screams post war refurb, to me. Many of those rifles were surrendered without bolts or the bolts were thrown in one pile and the rifles in another.

I spoke with an armorer that supervised the surrender of several hundred German troops, from a column trying to get out of Russian occupied Germany, over to either the Brit or US sectors.

He told me that the weapons surrendered were anywhere from almost worn out to brand new in appearance.

They had empty crates for the bolts and a big helter skelter stack of rifles.

Handguns were thrown onto a pile as well, usually in their holsters.

Submachine guns etc had their magazines removed, usually loaded and the guns were also tossed onto big piles. Same for other gear, such as helmets and equipment harnesses/back packs and bayonets.

The mismatched bolt could have been replaced in the field, IMHO not likely, but it did happen.

In 1972 I went to Montreal with Alan Lever to International Firearms. At that time, a lot of firearms that were coming out of Europe came through Canada, before continuing onto the US. Something to do with approved exporters.

I remember seeing pallets of K98s, unsorted in every imaginable condition, 15 rifles per tier, stacked high enough to fit into a tractor trailer. Sea Cans weren't a big thing in those days.

They weren't wrapped for shipment but appeared to have been either covered while at sea or in holds.

Some were rusty but it was old rust.

Not one of them had a bolt

In the final days of the war, Axis soldiers abandoned their firearms wherever it was convenient or at surrender points, then continued their way to home.

Some of that equipment sat out in the elements for a couple of years, until one government or another decided to take on the task of picking them up, mostly just to get them out of sight.

IMHO, your rifle is a great historical example and shooter grade.

I've also known collectors, in Canada and the US that only sought out "duffle cut" or personalized weapons.

It is what it is. If you like it and the price seems reasonable to you, go for it.
 
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I spoke with an armorer that supervised the surrender of several hundred German troops, from a column trying to get out of Russian occupied Germany, over to either the Brit or US sectors.

Just to be turned over to the Russian c*ck suckers anyways. The Allies should be held responsible for turning so many young men over to execution after hostilities had ended. Never negotiate with communists.
 
Just to be turned over to the Russian c*ck suckers anyways. The Allies should be held responsible for turning so many young men over to execution after hostilities had ended. Never negotiate with communists.

Well put. The avg solider took orders and should not have been a executed summarily. Or worked to death in labour camps…. Who said the soviets were good guys again? Lol
 
Did you buy it? Sometimes a guy will pass and hope for something better and it never comes along, unless
He bends over for a top dollar seller!

Thanks all for your input. Interesting responses! To me I'd rather not have the duffle cut but yes it's part of the history. Too bad the bolt does not match to the rifle!
 
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