Dutch Hembrug -- looking for some help

[nuttyBen]

Hello,

I have an Old Dutch 1895 (dated late 1930's)

Thing is I'm not sure about the stripper clips.
I found some stripper clips online, they are close but....I need some help

Who has such a rifle that can help me out?

For the 6.5 MS ammo, I'd like to know how secure should it be in the stripper clip. Should they be able to flop around?
Maybe I don't have the proper Stripper clip.

Also, wondering if at some point the rifle was altered to not accept a stripper clip.

The clip I have will insert from the bottom of the rifle, and fall freely.
However, I suspect (hard to tell) that someone added or it was never properly milled to accept a stripper clip.
Can anyone post a pic of the magazine well area, looking up, and down (trigger/magazine housing removed)

Mine, looking down, through the action is just two parallel lines with just enough clearance for a round to pass through. (I did have the rifle chamber checked 6.5 MS)

Any and all help is appreciated,
Ben

Sorry no pics

 

[mbogo3]

The 6.5 Dutch has a rim and the similar body dimensions as the 6.5x54 MS.Brass can be made from .303 British in a pinch.You may have Carcano stripper clips? Harold

 

[smellie]

The correct Mannlicher Clip for the Dutch and the Romanian Mannlicher rifles is the same Clip.

The ammunition, also, was the same CASING, loaded to slightly-different specs.

The Clip looked rather like a Carcano Clip, but where the Carcano Clip is straight and holds 6 rounds of the nearly-straight, rimless Carcano ammo, the Dutch/Romanian Clip holds 5 rounds of Tapered, Rimmed ammo: the Clip is CURVED. It is also reversable and may be inserted either side up.

Mannlicher rifles commonly loaded with a loaded Clip through the top of the rifle. When the Clip is inserted far enough, it LOCKS into place. It may be released through the TOP of the open action with a press-button, generally inside the trigger-guard. The Clip drops OUT of the rifle when you chamber the last round. Then you walk on the Clip and bend it completely out of shape and start looking for another...... OR you can put a strip of Masking Tape across the bottom of your Magazine and take the Clip out unbent.

Yes, the Dutch Rimmed 6.5x53R ammo CAN be made from .303. There are a couple of threads on exactly how to do it, over on milsurps dot com in the Reloading Forum.

Hope this helps.
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[camster]

Even if you have the proper ones, the may be a touch loose now regardless. Just opened up a bit.

For me (I don't have your rifle...) the test of the stripper is in the rifle. I've had a few that just won't work because the stripper was for a different rifle. If you can charge your magazine with them, they're good.

 

[smellie]

The Dutch Mannlicher rifle doesn't strip the rounds into the magazine.

It is a true 4-motion bolt-action Mannlicher rifle and it uses CLIPS which are inserted INTO the Magazine and become a PART OF the Magazine. The Feed-lips of the rifle are a part of the CLIP.

And yes, CLIPS do spread with usage. Just press them together again and insert 5 more rounds. With a bit of care, they will last a long time.
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[sail32]

This is what you are looking for;

The difference between the Dutch and Romanian clips is the size of the cut outs and reinforcing ribs. The Indonesians also rechambered Dutch M-95 to .303 British.

 

[nuttyBen]

Thanks for all the help, I am familiar with the function of this rifle type.

Sail32, thanks for the pic. I do have the same clip.

Camster, It seems my problem is that I cannot charge the magazine with the clip, for some reason the clip will not pass through the top of the bolt area.

That area is only wide enough for a round to pass through, not a clip. However, 1/8" below that area the clip will slide freely. (like I say, it will slide up from the bottom and drop)

Does anyone know if the feed path is supposed to be notched for the clip?

Can anyone get me a pic of a dutch rifle, bolt open looking downwards?

Again thanks for the replys and help.