(edited title) Museum's inventory: modified Long Lee rifle.

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Hi Guys,

Here the one that give me some hard time today. I'm far to be a Lee Enfield expert and I wasn't able to post during the day, so now the kids are sleeping and the wife is working on business administration... I have some free time. Did I just wrote "free time?! She gonna kill me if she ever read that!!

So, I definitely need your help on this one.

Oh, and by the way... can we post too much pictures? Please let me know, I would not like being a problem for the administrators!



































 
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Looks like a Lee Enfield Cavalry Carbine of some variation... but again I'm no expert either.

Better listen to the fellows that know what they are talking about I'll go back to my canoe boathouse.
 
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Badly cut-up Lee Enfield MK 1 Infantry Rifle, with Canadian "sold out of service" marking on buttstock and fore stock. Stock and barrel have been shortened.
 
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Are you telling me we were that close to have an original Lee Enfield Mk I? That is very sad... "out of service" is the meaning of the "C" with the star in it?

Is that the full denomination? Lee Enfield Mk I. I do not see the year of production. Any ideas? What kind of bayonet was used with this rifle. Is there a book or an archives website where we can find the Battalions or Regiments? If I'm right, this rifle was with the 85th Battalion (or Regiment) and rack number was 245.

Many thanks for the details.

Martin
 
It is not a star, but opposing broad arrows, which means sold as surplus. Some collectors also use the term Long Lee Enfield MK 1, but that is not proper military designation. Year of production is 1896. Pattern 1888 knife bayonet, but since the barrel and stock have cut you won't be able to fit a bayonet. Pre WW1 85th Regiment de Maisoneuve ,rifle number 245 or if issued to the CEF during WW1 as a training rifle it could have been used by Nova Scotia Highlanders. At the start of WW1 many older Pattern rifles were used for training.
 
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Tiriaq...

How to miss my first impression...

Did I really ask for the year of production?! Damn it... yes and I even wrote that I didn't see it...

:-s

Martin
 
Here is link to some great info on an original unmolested specimen: ht tp://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=180-1896-Mk1-MLE-(Magazine-Lee-Enfield)-Long-Lee
 
Wow! Thank you green...

Is there any sources about this info? Any name for the Battalion or affiliated known Regiment? That's great!

Martin
 
As I stated in my earlier post, there are two possibilities.

"Pre WW1 85th Regiment de Maisoneuve ,rifle number 245 or if issued to the CEF during WW1 as a training rifle it could have been used by Nova Scotia Highlanders. At the start of WW1 many older Pattern rifles were used for training. "
 
I think the rifle is a good candidate for a Professional restoration, a donor barrel could be found from another butchered rifle and a good furniture restorer could repair the cutdown stock also.
 
is there any chance it is a carbine that someone replaced the fore stock on badly? do you have any close up pic of the front of the muzzle and front sight ?
what the current barrel length?
 
Not a carbine, because of these reasons:

- Barrel lentgh
- Wrong handguard
- Wrong rear sight
- Rifle markings on the buttsocket, a carbine would be marked LEC
 
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