(edited title) Museum's inventory: Sterling or something else?

[dauph197]

Hi guys,

Here for identification something that looks like a Sterling submachine gun. The submachine gun is in really poor condition. If it's a Sterling gun, it must be one the very first model. If not, I have no idea of what it can be.

I can't show the bolt because the handle is ceased in place. With the pictures, you'll see no markings except the serial number I guess, which is 157. Later, I realized the gun has been neutralized, with the handle welded in place and the barrel filled with lead.

So, what do you think it is? Star Wars Stormtrooper E11's ancestor?!

Martin

 

[cantom]

Wow...that is interesting.

I wonder if you should ask Peter Laidler about it. I think he wrote a book about Sterlings and the company.

I'll send him the pics.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0889352046?*Version*=1&*entries*=0

 

[ronsnighttrain]

It looks like a Sterling L2A1...

 

[dauph197]

Thank you very much cantom. Sadly the book is no longer available. I would have buy one!

Martin

 

[cantom]

...it looks like the bastard lovechild of a Mk III Sten and a Sterling...

No mag for it?

 

[dauph197]

I can't find any particular mag for this one. Very strange...

Martin

 

[Lee Enfield]

That's not a sterling. That's a homebuilt of some variety that looks like a cross between a sten mk3 and someone's idea of what a sterling is

 

[XRCD011]

Interesting little gun. At first I thought it was a Patchett but this guy looks to crude to be that, although it certainly shares some common Patchett features. Where did the gun come from ? IRA gun factory??
Picture of a wartime Patchett about half ways down.


http://triggertimeforum.yuku.com/topic/5519#.U9frAOl0z5o

 

[Chuck3436]

x2

This is a basement ad-hoc put together.

That's not a sterling. That's a homebuilt of some variety that looks like a cross between a sten mk3 and someone's idea of what a sterling is

 

[dauph197]

I honestly have no clue of where this thing comes from. I am also a partisan of the homemade weapon.

It seems to use some starndard parts and the rest is roughly made, welded together to be able to just shoot the bullets. Not sure I would be willing to try it. Anyway, it is fully deactivated.

Martin

 

[dauph197]

Let's play... after the bastard child of a Sten and Sterling, another bastard child

Sorry for that... didn't post the thread at the righ place... I just posted in its own thread now.

 

[Semi12]

Sten stock attachment point with home brew stock
Sterling smg Barrel
Sten Mk3 mag well
Sten or sterling bolt
Front section of a sterling
Rear section of a sten

Looks like something the IRA used to cobble together...

 

[XRCD011]

Norinco copy of the L2 "sterling" SMG. No seriously now, I cannot shake the idea that this is a Ex-IRA copy of a L2 SMG cobbled together during "the troubles".

 

[Grizzly Adams]

I can't find any particular mag for this one. Very strange...

Martin

Have you tried a Sten Mag ? Looks like it might fit.

Grizz

 

[dauph197]

Yes I did... we have two kind of mag and both fit. One for the Sten, one for the Sterling. If I can find some time, I'll add pictures with mages on Thursday.

Martin

 

[cantom]

Reply from Peter Laidler:

Hi Tom. It is a home made thing from a ....., well I can't even really identify if it is a Sterling barrel. But the IRA used to try to make things like this. Clearly uses Sten gun magazines. I can tell you that just from the sheer dire quality of the workmanship that it didn't come from within 1,000 miles of Sterling!

Regards, Peter

 

[gaff]

poor home build with sten parts.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Khyber Pass SMG with the machinists and tin bashers high on opium!

 

[Shooting Centre]

I would wager Cypriot local manufacture. There is a copy of a Thompson at the Museum of the Regiments here in Calgary too.

 

[sunray]

The IRA had no trouble getting new kit without having to cobble stuff together.
If there are no stampings on it, it's possibly a homemade SMG.