Enfield 1907 Pattern Bayonet

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A friend of mine has come across a bayonet. We researched pictures of it on the internet and have found out that it is a "British 1907 Pattern Sanderson Bayonet".

It seems to be in pretty decent shape for it's age. It is just the bayonet, no scabbard.

I honestly do not know very much about bayonets, so I thought I would ask the exports here on this site. We seen that there seems to be Wilkenson and Sanderson Bayonets, is the differences just the manufacturer's or are there other differences? I know I don't have a picture of it as I don't own a cell phone, but would be interested in what an average price of a decent condition one would sell for? Any other information would be great also. Thanks.
 
Approx $150 - $200 with scabbard + shipping. Scabbards are around the $70 mark in fair to good shape + shipping.
 
Pattern 1907 bayonets were made in the UK, Australia and India.

Canada used them, so some will have Canadian marks, which would be a plus.

Lots of nations used the rifles they were meant for as well as the bayos, such as Austria, Italy, Turkey, Greece and almost every nation in Africa and the far East that the Brits had influence in. So lots of different marks can be found on both the bayonets and rifles. Some very rare and priced accordingly.

Usually, there will be original manufacture markings and other stamps added later.

I don't know who made most of them. The UK made the 1907 pattern for close to 20 years, India - 30+ years and Australia 20+ years. My numbers may be wrong, just going from the top of my head.

IMHO, without a scabbard, and your not very good description of condition the OP has a bayonet in the $75 range, in GOOD condition, more if better.

Orphan scabbards are fairly hard to come by. You might be able to pick one up from IMI, Numrich, Sarco or Liberty Tree.

I'm getting long in the tooth. I can remember when those bayonets were in bins on the floor of anyplace that sold surplus items for 75 cents without a scabbard and a dollar with the scabbard. Frogs never seemed to be in the store at the same time.

Something else that may or may not detract from the value of the bayonet, is whether or not it's been sharpened. I've read that some nations allowed them to be sharpened but most required that they be left dull.

They weren't intended to be utility knives, they were a throwback from the age of Pikes and single shot muzzle loaders, to be used when there wasn't time to reload.

That doesn't mean they weren't effective in close quarter fighting. There's a very good reason why bayonets are still issued with the present day fighting rifles.

If it just happens to have a Hooked Quilon, than everything changes as far as value is concerned.
 
I will try and describe the markings as best as I can. On one side the top marking is a crown and underneath the crown is the letters G R not positive about the G. Then underneath the G R is 1907. Underneath the 1907 is the number 18 and then below the number 18 is the number 1. Underneath the number 1 is the name sanderson.

The other side has a mark that looks like this ^ just spread out a little more. Then right underneath this ^ is what looks like to me a small crown. Below the small crown is small letters B U with an E underneath the B U, then there is a large X with the same B U with an E underneath on the other side of the X.

I know this description is confusing to you guys, it's confusing to me too. But maybe it will help someone who knows about bayonets identify it further. Thanks.
 
Northshore said:
I will try and describe the markings as best as I can. On one side the top marking is a crown and underneath the crown is the letters G R not positive about the G. Then underneath the G R is 1907. Underneath the 1907 is the number 18 and then below the number 18 is the number 1. Underneath the number 1 is the name sanderson.

The other side has a mark that looks like this ^ just spread out a little more. Then right underneath this ^ is what looks like to me a small crown. Below the small crown is small letters B U with an E underneath the B U, then there is a large X with the same B U with an E underneath on the other side of the X.

I know this description is confusing to you guys, it's confusing to me too. But maybe it will help someone who knows about bayonets identify it further. Thanks.
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Sanderson = UK manufacture

The 18 is the manufacture date

The broad arrow is an acceptance mark.

The other marks are inspector's marks and the X might be a sold out of service mark.
 
Thanks so much you guys. I will write down all of the info and bring it to my buddy when I return the bayonet, I am sure he will be impressed with all of your knowledge and information.
 
Bearhunter, Pat 1907 bayonets were also produced in South Africa during WW II. Manufactured by the South African Railways and the Associated Engineers Company. Somewhat rough and in relatively small numbers. Unfortunately, few survive. Terry
 
superbee said:
what would be a ball park price on a hooked quilion bayonet with scabbard and frog.?I think it is dated 1911.
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The last one I saw for sale, in excellent condition, was at the last Victoria Gun Show at the Saanich Facility. The fellow had $900 on it and wasn't budging. I came very close to buying that bayonet/scabbard/frog set.

It was a toss up between that and another item that's even rarer and was on my bucket list. I opted for the 45/70 Hotchkiss repeating, bolt action rifle, with a very nice patina, excellent bore. I haven't shot it YET. I cringe when I think of breaking parts which are no longer available.
 
Thanks again you guys for all the info. When I brought it back to my friend today I had written down all the info from everyone and he was over the moon happy. When we looked on his computer for info, we found lots but it was very confusing, so I told him let me ask the guys on my firearm site, and sure enough a couple hours later had all the info we needed. Great site with great members with a great body of knowledge.
 
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