Enfield Jungle Carbine value?

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Anyone have an idea of the value of one of these?It is as issued,and is stamped:No5MK1ROF(F) 6/45 06***.I would rate it as being in good condition.Any help would be appreciated,I'm trying to value it for an estate and military rifles are not my forte! Thanks,Mur
 
The stock shows little wear and it has a blancoed web sling(my cadet days are coming back to me!).I'll run a patch through it and use my bore light to have a look tomorrow.Thanks FormerFarmer! Cheers,Mur
 
I have seen JC sell for more if the forestock front end has the metal cap. It amounted to $100.00 difference if I recall.
 
Robbs said:
I have seen JC sell for more if the forestock front end has the metal cap. It amounted to $100.00 difference if I recall.
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Do you mean the ring or strap holding the forend cover in place?

BTW, a crappy photo of my all matching Shirley.

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geologist said:
Do you mean the ring or strap holding the forend cover in place?

BTW, a crappy photo of my all matching Shirley.

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No the forend on many has a metal cap at the end of the wood, I am at a loss for the correct terminology but it would look sort of like an ebony cap on a hunting rifle forend. I had an excellent 05/47 Fakarzy(I foolishly sold it) with one and they do look much nicer, less like a cut down No 4

I will see if I still have a photo
Cheers

This was a few years ago but the going rate was 400-450 at the time.
 
They were made in both configurations. I haven't noticed any real difference in prices for one with or without the end cap. According to Laidler, it was common practise to remove the end caps and round off the profile of the fore stock in tropical or coastal postings. It seems they had a serious problem with the wood rotting under them and coming loose, so they just removed them. As long as the rest of the stock was OK, they were considered an acceptable variant and left as is.

I certainly wouldn't discount a No5 because it lacked an end cap on the fore stock. In fact, they are a lot harder to find in that configuration.
 
bearhunter said:
They were made in both configurations. I haven't noticed any real difference in prices for one with or without the end cap. According to Laidler, it was common practise to remove the end caps and round off the profile of the fore stock in tropical or coastal postings. It seems they had a serious problem with the wood rotting under them and coming loose, so they just removed them. As long as the rest of the stock was OK, they were considered an acceptable variant and left as is.

I certainly wouldn't discount a No5 because it lacked an end cap on the fore stock. In fact, they are a lot harder to find in that configuration.
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I have one of each and wondered why some had a metal end cap and others do not. I have one of each. The first, near mint that I picked up and added a bayonet to. This one is equiped with the metal cap.

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The second was a little rough when I got it so I picked it up as a parts gun but it cleaned up not too bad. I have the original butt stock for it but my buddy had an after market one on, Bishop I believe, and I've left it like that. Also, as it wasn't in pristine condition, I also put a scope on it, using an S&K mount so I wouldn't have to 'bubba' it by drilling and tapping. This one does not have the metal cap on the tip of the forend but it hasn't been rounded off either.

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jungle carbine value

A bit off subject, and I'm aging myself. I recall many years ago, you could buy these out of the Simpsons-Sears (forerunner of Sears) for $10.88, no GST!
 
The caps were added as basic protection against a common splitting problem when the fore stock was smacked against a hard object, this happened a lot. They were also made without caps well into 1946. They had massive quantities premade and wanted to use up existing stocks.

Condition is everything. The original quote is pretty close. A pitted, dinged, rode hard put away wet rifle, as long as it's complete will bring $200. Maybe $250 if it's all matching. Usually this is classed as good. In very good condition, the No5s will vary between $250 - $400. Again, depending on condition and matching/non matching numbers. In Excellent condition not mint or unissued the rifles will range from $400 - $550. New unissued specimens, still in grease and unissued will go as high as $750+.

Condition, condition, condition is what it's all about. No5 rifles aren't rare by any means but they are a lot fewer in number than No4s. A minty, unissued Savage No4 MkI* will go for $500+ Long Branchs' a little more UK No4 MkIs' in minty condition will bring a bit less. All of course depending on the buyer and in many cases the economy of the area. For person making minimum wage, a milsurp is no longer a cheap way to get into shooting. Even the cheap com bloc stuff can be a stretch on many budgets. Then of course, there is the ammunition to feed them.
 
bearhunter said:
The caps were added as basic protection against a common splitting problem when the fore stock was smacked against a hard object, this happened a lot. They were also made without caps well into 1946. They had massive quantities premade and wanted to use up existing stocks.

Condition is everything. The original quote is pretty close. A pitted, dinged, rode hard put away wet rifle, as long as it's complete will bring $200. Maybe $250 if it's all matching. Usually this is classed as good. In very good condition, the No5s will vary between $250 - $400. Again, depending on condition and matching/non matching numbers. In Excellent condition not mint or unissued the rifles will range from $400 - $550. New unissued specimens, still in grease and unissued will go as high as $750+.

Condition, condition, condition is what it's all about. No5 rifles aren't rare by any means but they are a lot fewer in number than No4s. A minty, unissued Savage No4 MkI* will go for $500+ Long Branchs' a little more UK No4 MkIs' in minty condition will bring a bit less. All of course depending on the buyer and in many cases the economy of the area. For person making minimum wage, a milsurp is no longer a cheap way to get into shooting. Even the cheap com bloc stuff can be a stretch on many budgets. Then of course, there is the ammunition to feed them.
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:)Thank you. That answered a long time question of mine.
 
STWshooter said:
A bit off subject, and I'm aging myself. I recall many years ago, you could buy these out of the Simpsons-Sears (forerunner of Sears) for $10.88, no GST!
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Bought mine at Scotty's Antiques in Kelowna in 1961 while visiting my grandparents. Had to pay the provincial sales tax and was shocked being from Sask. where used items were tax free.

Sold it years later for $125.00 and kicked myself for years.
 
CanadianAR said:
They show as 399.00 at badger arms and in stock.
So I'd say it worth at least that. Lol
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I just sold mine for $300 shipped today and it is in very good condition:

http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php?t=561527


$399 from a dealer for one which is "good to very good" sets you back almost $500 after taxes, other dealers have been selling those refurbs for $349.

I don't quite get it why people are buying average condition rifles at dealers UNSEEN at those prices but can't seem to get enough pictures when they buy from private.

I guess people buying from dealers don't have cash and have to use their plastic. Just a guess.
 
island grown said:
Hey there JP,
In your second picture, where does a guy find a scope mount like that???
Did you have to modify at all???

Cheers,
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I was visiting a buddy in Ladysmith, that dabbles in gunsmithing, after I picked up the two JC's and he asked if I was planning on putting a scope on one or both. Thinking I'd have to 'bubba' them to do so I said no. After he showed me an option where I could use a product that didn't require any drilling and tapping, we made a 'trade' and I picked up two of these units from him. The info on the container they came in is;

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I cheated. :)Here's a scan of the identifying label. No alterations required:D. Hope this helps you.
 
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