Enfield - More info required

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Looking for info on this rifle, is it any good, is it worth anything, would it be worth while to refurbish, and so on.....

Any and all info would be greatly appreciated..

I have not been on here for a while, just busy with life and other things....

Cheers

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desporterizer said:
Early date but that's about the only interesting thing about it. $150-200. Had it been left alone, $800.
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Thanks, it's a good start....

not sure what you mean "had it been left alone" has something been done to it ?

I know nothing about these types of rifles, so I am not sure what I am looking for, it was owned by an older gentleman, has had it for a very long time, his son did not want it in the house, so now I have it.

What should be done with it ? anything ? or just leave it as is ?

Thanks
 
You would have to try to find an uncut lower forestock, the other piece of the upper forestock, the barrel band and swivel, and the nose cap. IF (and that's a big "if"0 you could find the parts, you'd have a nice looking riflem but it would still be a restored rifle. The nose caps were fitted to the rifles at the factory, hence the serial number matching the bolt and receiver. Your call.
 
Ftaview said:
Thanks, it's a good start....

not sure what you mean "had it been left alone" has something been done to it ?

I know nothing about these types of rifles, so I am not sure what I am looking for, it was owned by an older gentleman, has had it for a very long time, his son did not want it in the house, so now I have it.

What should be done with it ? anything ? or just leave it as is ?

Thanks
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This is what it should look like. As you can see its had significant portion of the stock cut off and bits of metal removed to make it lighter. This is called "sporterization". Yours looks like it was done with a hacksaw in someones garage, hence the popular term "bubba'd". Some were sporterized commercially. Had it been left in its military configuration, it would be worth significantly more due to historical value. Now, its one amongst many that were bubba'd. So like $100.

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Thanks guys, really appreciate the info....interesting I did not see any hack marks on it, but then again I wasn't looking for any...

Too bad it's a "bubba" I really have no interest in the rifle, was dong the research for a web challenged friend, I am sure he thought he was sitting on a small gold mine but too bad I have to give him the bad news....

Just one more thing, how do I remove the bolt from this thing ? any manuals online somewhere I can look up
 
add sling, piling swivel, rear sight guard and attaching bits, magazine cutoff and screw, rear volley sight, and front dial sight.

How to remove the bolt. pull bolt all the way to the rear, (behind the charger guide) then use your thumb to push up on the bolt head. Note there is a small spring visible at the rear of the reciever that keeps the bolt head from otherwise rising. Ir you are careful, you won't skin your knuckle pushing the bolt head up LOL
It is a nice early date and a arsenal conversion from a Long Lee.
 
John Sukey said:
add sling, piling swivel, rear sight guard and attaching bits, magazine cutoff and screw, rear volley sight, and front dial sight.

How to remove the bolt. pull bolt all the way to the rear, (behind the charger guide) then use your thumb to push up on the bolt head. Note there is a small spring visible at the rear of the reciever that keeps the bolt head from otherwise rising. Ir you are careful, you won't skin your knuckle pushing the bolt head up LOL
It is a nice early date and a arsenal conversion from a Long Lee.
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Grouse Man said:
It's still a nice hunting rifle for somebody.
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Well it will probably end up on the EE

I have no desire to refurb or fix or look for parts

Hopefully someone will have use for it as a hunting rifle....

Thanks
 
It is a helluvva lot more than "just another Bubba"!

It is one of the RAREST variants of the Lee-Enfield rifle!

It started off as a Lee-Metford Mark II and was CONVERTED to a Lee-Enfield by adding the Charger Bridge, changing-out the worn Metford barrel for an Enfield barrel and then restocked to be very similar to the new SMLE rifle.

At the beginning of the Great War, about 1 rifle in 500 was to this specification. Most of the Converted rifles were Converted to CLLE status, retaining the 30.2-inch barrel.... and THEY are quite rare ENOUGH.

I looked for a VERY long time for one, only got my hands on one because friend Buffdog (God bless him AND Max!) became addicted to Swedish Mausers and was willing to part with one.

Look again, friend, look again.

Hope this helps.
 
SMLE MkIV Cond (Converted)
1892 MkII Magazine Lee Metford converted in 1908 to MkIII SMLE specs.
Quite rare & well worth restoring.

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You have the remains of a Magazine Lee Metford Mark II long rifle, which was converted into a charger loading Short Magazine Lee Enfield.
If it were mine, I would surely attempt a quality restoration, in the SMLE configuration. In my opinion it would be very much worth doing.

Just saw the above posts. Don't just dump it as another sported Lee Enfield. If you don't want it, get it to someone who would appreciate it.
 
Ftaview said:
Well it will probably end up on the EE

I have no desire to refurb or fix or look for parts

Hopefully someone will have use for it as a hunting rifle....

Thanks
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tiriaq said:
Don't just dump it as another sported Lee Enfield. If you don't want it, get it to someone who would appreciate it.
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+1
Shame you're in a different country or i would make an offer to take it off your hands.
 
Ftaview said:
Thanks, it's a good start....

not sure what you mean "had it been left alone" has something been done to it ?

I know nothing about these types of rifles, so I am not sure what I am looking for, it was owned by an older gentleman, has had it for a very long time, his son did not want it in the house, so now I have it.

What should be done with it ? anything ? or just leave it as is ?

Thanks
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If the old gentleman is still of sound mind, take a photo of one in original shape along and ask him if he still has the parts. He might well have sported it himself and squirreled the bits (metal at least) away somewhere. People from the Depression generation don't throw much away, some of them.
 
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Seems there is more to this rifle than I first thought, and there is some interest in it...

Going to see if I can find out if the original owner has any of the parts kicking around, somehow I doubt it, but it will be worth a try and at least that part don't cost anything, maybe even a good story or 2 if the guy is of sound mind....I have not met the owner so I don't know...

Thanks for all the input, greatly appreciated...
 
The lesson here is, don't write off a sported milsurp at first glance. You never know what you might have. Long Branch made up a bunch of trials rifles in WW2 and for the lightened models, some looked just like bubbas cut down sporters. You just never know.
 
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