Enfield No32 Repro Scope

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Anyone got any suggestions as to a good repro No32 scope for a No4 LE?

Searching eBay and there appear to be only two choices: The Chinese built Red Star Mountain at approx $800 for the complete kit. Or the Waffenmiester at approx $1000 for the kit.

I'm not sure where the Waffenmiester is made but it has a 1 year warranty and the claim is, they are made from original drawings.

Apparently the Red Star Mountain were reverse engineered from an original sample of a No32 scope ... and for sure they are Chinese made.

One plus on the side of th Red Star Mountain is they offer a Mk3 model where the Waffenmiester are only Mk1 and Mk2 models. The kit does come with the scope adjustment tool though.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
OK, nobody knows about repro No32 scopes. :(

Anyone recommend a smith to install scope mount pads on a No4 rifle?
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Both of those scopes will do the job they're intended for and are quite robust. The Mk III repro would be my preference and from what I've seen of them, it takes a close look to tell they're not the real thing.

As for a smith to install, you didn't want to post your location, so not many are going to chime in.
 
I only have experience with real No. 32 scopes, and would recommend getting the Mk 3 because it is easier to zero than the Mk1 and 2. The Mk 3 has a friction slip ring to move to zero the scope and you are not messing with unlocking and turning screws. However, if you are looking for some specific war time period authenticity, then realize the Mk 3 is very late wartime issue, end of 1944, 1945 period. This is all based on the assumption that these repro scopes are made like the real ones.
 
bearhunter said:
Both of those scopes will do the job they're intended for and are quite robust. The Mk III repro would be my preference and from what I've seen of them, it takes a close look to tell they're not the real thing.

As for a smith to install, you didn't want to post your location, so not many are going to chime in.
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I'm in Calgary but I'd ship to a decent smith pretty much anywhere.


I got some information on the two repro scopes that seem to be available and apparently the RSM model is not worth purchasing. Its not so much the details of how the scope looks as it is the accuracy of how the internal parts are made.

I am going to go with the Wafenmeister as I am only after something that is reasonable quality for a reasonable price. I am after something I can shoot and not any collectible value. Unfortunately the Waffenmeister is only available in a Mk2 version.
 
There is no difference in the repro Mk.1 and Mk.II scopes
The ones that were made in Belarus were good as well as some from Taiwan, but they all needed a bit of tarting up to work well.
Internally, they are the same....
The Mk. 3 is much different internally.
Stick with the Mk.1 and 2
I have worked on a number of Mk.1 & 2 and currently trying to smooth out the problems with the Mk.3, but having to make parts.
They are not original No.32 scopes for which I have a large number of parts and lenses.
 
I placed an order for the Waffenmeister Mk2 scope kit. I'm told it is a better choice than the RSM and is apparently made in Taiwan. Fingers crossed I get a good one or it will be off to Wheaty for a rebuild.

I did have an offer of a real Mk2 scope but by the time I collected all the pieces the Waffenmeister kit comes with, the price would be pretty close to double and I am not after historical accuracy, just something that looks the part and is shootable with decent results. ;) It could be worse, I could have chosen one of those crap modern "no gunsmithing" mounts and a modern scope. Cause those look like total ass.


Now I just need to find someone experienced in installing the mount pads.
 
Warren does great work and is a real craftsman when it comes to these scopes. If he suggests the MkI and MkII, follow his advice.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ............... Look up? In the post above yours, I stated, "I placed an order for the Waffenmeister Mk2 scope kit."
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Hmm. Asking for advice, but piss on those who take their time to help you. I would kindly suggest a different approach, but maybe that's just me.

I had the pads installed my repro No4Mk1(T) by Jason Spencer in Ottawa. He pretty much did a perfect job.
 
I Dont Care About You said:
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One plus on the side of th Red Star Mountain is they offer a Mk3 model where the Waffenmiester are only Mk1 and Mk2 models. The kit does come with the scope adjustment tool though.
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The sight tool is an illusion. To read Peter Laidler's book, the adjustments require three hands to stabilize parts and two more to tighten fasteners all at the same time.

For my recreational shooting wartime copy scoped rifles, I have a couple of steel 1" tube Weaver K2.5 and K3 scopes. They are just about the same technology, except not made in a third world workshop copying the best of British manufacturing from the 1930s. They cost less than $100 and could be considered disposable if something inside goes sproing!
 
There is something about the look of the No32 scope on a LE. The mount is part of the whole look.

Wheaty assures me the repro No32's can be modified and corrected to work well.
 
So its been a while since I got my Waffenmeister No32 replica scope.

I had the pads mounted by Vulcan Refinishing and Nick did an excellent job there.

Once I got the scope zero'd - which is definitely a PIA - We did some shooting with the scope and fairly quickly I began to fight with the scope. While the image appeared to be crisp and clean, I seemed to have trouble seeing the target itself as it always seemed to be a little bit out of focus, even while the image around the target appeared to be clean.

After a bit of experimenting with head position and how I looked through the scope, it became clear (pun) that there was an optical defect in the centre of one of the lenses. Looking straight through the scope, there was a fuzzy area right at the centre of the image. By moving my head just a little to the side, the image would clear up and be perfectly focussed.

It took a little bit of back and forth to get into contact with Waffenmeister (messaging through eBay seemed to be the route to go) and they eventually offered to replace the scope. I just received the replacement scope yesterday and this one seems to be fine, at least it does not have a fuzzy spot in the optics near or around the reticle tip.

The real No32 scopes are somewhat available but are twice the price of the replica scopes.
 
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