Enfield Pattern 1914 help!!!

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I have a Enfield Pattern 1914 that has been sporterized that I have offered to give to a buddy of mine once he gets his lisence in the mail (which we know is anywhere from 2-5 months of waiting!). Anyways we are gonna start working on it now so once he has his lisence it is already good to go for him. We are trying to find a synthetic stock for it but all of the stock say for Enfield mark I, II, III ect. What mark is my rifle? Or do you know of another Enfields stock that will fit on my model? We are hoping to find one of the ATI stocks for it and perferably buy it off of Marstar.

Thanks, Ranger
 
Your Enfield isn't a Mark it's a Pattern. I am not sure how compatible it would be with a Mark III or IV synthetic stock, but I would wager not very.
 
The arent' the same stock. Pattern 14's were made by the americans for the british to augment their enfield arsenals. Both used .303 but that was about where the similarity ended.
 
H Wally said:
The arent' the same stock. Pattern 14's were made by the americans for the british to augment their enfield arsenals. Both used .303 but that was about where the similarity ended.
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Ahem ... the Pattern 1914 and the Model 1917 are very similar, except for the cartridge. The British were all set to abandon the Lee Enfield line which even before WWI was acknowledged as hard to build and cranky to accurize. The war started before they could get rolling with Army-wide production. The Americans were going to replace the 1903 Springfields for similar reasons, and then they too got drawn into the war.

The bolt faces and extractors are different. The barrels are .30-06 or .303BR. The sights aren't the same. Otherwise there are few immediately discernable differences, until compared side-by-side.
 
So does someone make a pattern 1914 synthetic stock then? The current wooden one it is wearing it really damaged and really needs to be replaced.
 
Believe it or not I actually have ramline remington 700 stock on one of my 17's. The floor plate has to be straightened and the magwell shortened and drill a new hole for the action screw. Remove some plastic with a die grinder and so on and it fit. If you want pictures let me know and I can put some up.
 
billdick said:
Believe it or not I actually have ramline remington 700 stock on one of my 17's. The floor plate has to be straightened and the magwell shortened and drill a new hole for the action screw. Remove some plastic with a die grinder and so on and it fit. If you want pictures let me know and I can put some up.
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Yea I would love that if you don't mind, would help tons.
 
I would hazzard a guess that if you showed louthepou or someone else some pics they might be inclined to trade you a sporter p14 for that puppy so they can refurb it. I saw a p14 in 303 epps on buysell. com the other day for about 225. Sporters don't go for much.
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
Ahem ... the Pattern 1914 and the Model 1917 are very similar, except for the cartridge.
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Ummm, I think he was comparing the Pattern 14 to the No.1 and No. 4 rifles...

Anyways.

There are a few makers of stocks for the Pattern 14/Model 1917/Model 30 family.

Boyd's makes wooden sporter stocks and Bell and Carlson makes a synthetic stock for the Model 1917, which will fit your P-14. Just make sure you get the 'military' or 'GI' profile stock, as a good deal of bubba'd M1917's down south had their floor-plate straightened. Enough to justify making special stocks for them anyway.
 
aletheuo said:
I would hazzard a guess that if you showed louthepou or someone else some pics they might be inclined to trade you a sporter p14 for that puppy so they can refurb it. I saw a p14 in 303 epps on buysell. com the other day for about 225. Sporters don't go for much.
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I usually am quite tempted by such objects, obviously that's not a secret anymore? :D

Well I actually have a P14 in the works right now, but I'll be out of "original" stock for the P14 after this one. But, Hey, I have two already-sporterized stocks, doing nothing here. So it'd be a much simpler thing to take one I have here and make sure Ranger_Dave has one in good shape to replace the really damaged one he has...

R_D, send me a PM if that could help.

Lou
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
Ahem ... the Pattern 1914 and the Model 1917 are very similar, except for the cartridge. The British were all set to abandon the Lee Enfield line which even before WWI was acknowledged as hard to build and cranky to accurize. The war started before they could get rolling with Army-wide production. The Americans were going to replace the 1903 Springfields for similar reasons, and then they too got drawn into the war.

The bolt faces and extractors are different. The barrels are .30-06 or .303BR. The sights aren't the same. Otherwise there are few immediately discernable differences, until compared side-by-side.
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Tyler said:
Ummm, I think he was comparing the Pattern 14 to the No.1 and No. 4 rifles...
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Bada-bing! Tyler wins the prize.

Have never seen a plastic stock for any of the pattern guns to be honest, though enough of them have been sportered to suggest somewhere out there, there's a drop in stock. Might just be a wooden cut down one, that's all :p
 
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Boyd's Makes both a Laminate and a solid wood stock to fit the P14, but I am not sure who makes a Synthetic. I am sure someone does, because I have seen P14's converted to 300 Win Mags and 7mm Rem Mags with synthetic stocks on them. Regards, Eagleye.
 
H Wally said:
Bada-bing! Tyler wins the prize.
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Sweet! What do I get?

Check out the Bell & Carlson site, guys. I'm positive they make a synthetic stock for the P-14 family. Billdick's rifle is an example of a rifle with a 'straight' floorplate and not the original 'GI' or 'potbelly' floorplate. Make sure any stock you order is right for your rifle.
 
I've found a few R700 ones that I think if I get the heavy barrel/long action will fit my pat. 1914 .303british. I will be pissed if I buy one, pay for shipping and all only to have it not fit.....I understand I will have to do some slight adjustments and all which is fine.
 
Slight adjustments is an understatement! The receiver on the 700 is round, the P-14 is square. Your going to have to straighten the P-14 floor plate... It goes on...
 
"...Americans were going to replace the 1903 Springfields..." Nope. The Pattern 17 was only ever a 'substitute standard', Stateside. Dumped after W.W. I.
Bell and Carlson make a synthetic for a P14.
 
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