Enfield Sniper

M47C = BSA Shirley 1944 date
S51 is the factory conversion to sniper by Holland and Holland.

Nice rifle, all matching. original sling that needs some TLC. The scope cover is only half of it. Maybe the stitching wrotted away. Looks like this.

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Sniper rifle appears to be all original except the mag. Value is going to depend on bore condition and if the scope is fully functional - is the reticle intact? and does it freely adjust for windage and elevation. As pointed out the scope cover is half there and there is no transit chest nor scope case. Value assuming no issues $4500 - 5500 depending on the market. Ron
 
rgg_7 said:
Sniper rifle appears to be all original except the mag. Value is going to depend on bore condition and if the scope is fully functional - is the reticle intact? and does it freely adjust for windage and elevation. As pointed out the scope cover is half there and there is no transit chest nor scope case. Value assuming no issues $4500 - 5500 depending on the market. Ron
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I would say you're a bit light on the value there.

From what I can see on the pics, the only thing that needs to be done to an otherwise VG+ grade sniper rifle is to condition the leather on the sling, and find a replacement scope cover. It's not unusual for scope covers to be missing.

OP, depending on the market, that rifle would start at the values suggested by rgg_7. He may have seen something I missed so he may also be right on as to value.

If that were my rifle, I wouldn't sell it for those prices.
 
bearhunter said:
I would say you're a bit light on the value there.

From what I can see on the pics, the only thing that needs to be done to an otherwise VG+ grade sniper rifle is to condition the leather on the sling, and find a replacement scope cover. It's not unusual for scope covers to be missing.

OP, depending on the market, that rifle would start at the values suggested by rgg_7. He may have seen something I missed so he may also be right on as to value.

If that were my rifle, I wouldn't sell it for those prices.
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Bore is excellent, scope works as it should, optics are crystal clear. I paid 6500.
 
Rocket_James said:
Bore is excellent, scope works as it should, optics are crystal clear. I paid 6500.
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The value of money, like the value of a No.4T, is subjective. It depends on how hard it is for you to come by either. I wouldn't spend that much money on any rifle. Unless I could afford to, in which case, it would be a No.4T, if I could find one for that price. As long as you keep liking having that more than you liked the money, you did well.
 
It was a private sale that I was not expecting. Asking price was 8500 but rifle was obviously very nice and I decided on the spot to chase it. Unfortunately my knowledge was limited so I checked the recent auctions and found one that sold for 5500 plus commissions and tax. I offered 6500 which essentially saved me the tax. I was still a bit nervous because this means I shop for clothes at Walmart for another two years. The good news is that this rifle will be in my family for as long as my body is above ground. I appreciate the feedback from everyone.
 
TheTooner said:
The value of money, like the value of a No.4T, is subjective. It depends on how hard it is for you to come by either. I wouldn't spend that much money on any rifle. Unless I could afford to, in which case, it would be a No.4T, if I could find one for that price. As long as you keep liking having that more than you liked the money, you did well.
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Thanks, the thing about money is that people always want more so they work hard and/or invest. I have spent a lifetime working and this gun is an investment. I have yet to see any GIC or stock that you can take to the range while holding a piece of history. Also if the world collapses and the economy fails, the GIC becomes fire starter, the rifle can still operate and defend your family. That's my view.
 
TheTooner said:
Save, invest, and prepare for the future, but you might not be around for it, so remember to also live in the present.
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Very true. I don't want to be on my death bed regretting things I didn't do, that's part of the reason I bought this rifle. Money is no problem to purchase this rifle, but I will need to buy my clothes and shoes from the Walmart clearance section for the next few years.
 
They are a nice gun to own
I bought one many years ago in the box as a 303, but it was a 7.62
Still have it
 
Question.... do those who own these actually ever shoot them? I bought a couple of the Molot PU snipers when they came in. One was not quite as cosmetically nice as the other, both were Excellent condition. So I shoot the ugly one and "preserve" the pretty one. I enjoy the heck out of my PU, the finish is flaked, rubbed bare and uneven now, but it goes out to play almost every range day. The pretty one lingers in the safe.In think if I had a nice rifle like Mr. Rocket has I might shoot it once, just to do it but I wouldn't be working on different handloads , accuracy testing and shooting long range steel with it just for fun like I do with might trusty PU'

Really just wondering?
 
I have two Israeli FN 98k 7.62 sniper rifles with 4x scopes
Shot them a few times
Have a few of the m14 Israeli ART 2 sniper rifles, used to shoot them until they changed the law
 
big bear said:
Question.... do those who own these actually ever shoot them? I bought a couple of the Molot PU snipers when they came in. One was not quite as cosmetically nice as the other, both were Excellent condition. So I shoot the ugly one and "preserve" the pretty one. I enjoy the heck out of my PU, the finish is flaked, rubbed bare and uneven now, but it goes out to play almost every range day. The pretty one lingers in the safe.In think if I had a nice rifle like Mr. Rocket has I might shoot it once, just to do it but I wouldn't be working on different handloads , accuracy testing and shooting long range steel with it just for fun like I do with might trusty PU'

Really just wondering?
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I shoot my No4 T as much as I can and I love it. Put about 1200 rounds through it by now, and its the one rifle out of my whole collection that I'd never consider selling. I've owned 3 PU snipers, but sold them all. They're cool, but not nearly as consistently accurate as the No4 T. I think its probably because of the scope
 
big bear said:
Question.... do those who own these actually ever shoot them? .In think if I had a nice rifle like Mr. Rocket has I might shoot it once, just to do it but I wouldn't be working on different handloads , accuracy testing and shooting long range steel with it just for fun like I do with might trusty PU'

Really just wondering?
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The rifle itself is just a standard No. 4 so plenty rugged. It's the scopes I would worry about. There are only a very small number of guys available to rebuild them and if the scope lets go during your ownership it will cost you either through repair or lowered value of the outfit. I have one Mk II No. 32 scope that the British T Guru Peter Laidler rebuilt. He told me that it was an ex-Indian used scope and was just barely restorable when it came to him. Needless to say I don't put a lot of casual plinking rounds through the rifle with that scope mounted. In fact I don't use either of my T's for casual shooting. For that I have a T replica with replica Taiwanese No. 32 scope. It's worth a fraction of a real outfit and is actually more accurate than my real ones. The shooting experience is identical but worry free.

milsurpo
 
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