Entry Level Rifle/ Shotgun for Hunting

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Hi there,

I'm new to hunting and to firearms in general, living in the Toronto area. Was curious if there are any suggestions on rifles/ shotguns/ calibre that would be good to start with? I was recommended Tikka as a great bolt action - any other suggestions?
 
What are you looking to hunt specifically?

A Mossberg 500 field model is a good place to start for a shotgun.

If you're going to be hunt deer/black bear/moose and want a do-all cartridge, look at a bolt action rifle in 7mm or 30cal from Tikka, Browning, Winchester, Ruger etc.
 
Hi there,

I'm new to hunting and to firearms in general, living in the Toronto area. Was curious if there are any suggestions on rifles/ shotguns/ calibre that would be good to start with? I was recommended Tikka as a great bolt action - any other suggestions?
My advice would be to first figure out what you want to hunt and Where.
There are many different rules in Ontario concerning what firearm is legal to hunt with in particular areas.
The second would be to learn how to shoot properly by joining a club and getting some classes to learn properly .
I woukd alsobsuggest buying a .22 rimfire because you can shoot them a lot more due to the cost and places to shoot them.
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As an entry level, if you're looking to buy new, a Sauer 100 or Mauser M18 (essentially the same gun) can be had for about $750 all in if you look around. For example, site sponsor Rangeview has the 3006 for 649. Quality is about the same as a tikka. I find the stock fits me better, but the tikka might fit you better. There is absolutely nothing in that price range that can touch it.

I recommend sticking with a versatile caliber that doesn't recoil too much: .308 win, .270 win or 30-06. You can do pretty much everything with those. .308 is a bit easier to find cheap(er) plinking ammo of you don't reload, and on some rifles has a shorter action (not on the above mentioned rifles though). Take the money you save on the rifle, and put it towards a scope. If you really like hunting, you can get another rifle afterwards. If you don't you're only out a few bucks if you sell the rifle and scope.

For a shotgun, a decent entry level pump will let you figure out how to shoot. I started with a cheap Mossberg 500 in 20ga and it is still going strong after close to 20k Rds. If you're doing to do am occasional grouse outing and some informal clays, a pump will be fine. Consider a 20ga, unless your main intent is mostly goose hunting. It has less recoil and in most places, target ammo is the same price.
If I wanted a single shotgun, I'd probably get a browning BPS bump. Easy to find used and still available new (I think prophet River is having a clearance).
 
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Hi there,

I'm new to hunting and to firearms in general, living in the Toronto area. Was curious if there are any suggestions on rifles/ shotguns/ calibre that would be good to start with? I was recommended Tikka as a great bolt action - any other suggestions?
For a beginner (or anyone who wants good quality at reasonable prices):

Big game rifle = Used Husqvarna 1600/1640 270 or 30-06 in at least VG overall condition (stay away from the junk). $500 tops. You'd have to spend $1500+ to get something approaching equivalent quality buying new.

Accurate and reliable rimfire for small game = Hard to beat a CZ 455 (or similar). Prices vary depending on configuration. Used bolt 22s are fine too, but I've found most people don;t care for them properly (or at all). Used will be cheaper, but not by much - I'd recommend new.

Rimfire for plinking = Good old Ruger 10/22. $350 used. Loads of fun to shoot and accessorize (if that's your thing).

Pump Shotgun = Used Mossberg/Lakefield 12g with mod choke. Might cost you $300. I'd avoid new Mossberg like the plague (that's just based on my own experience - others like them)

Break action shotgun for small game (20g, 410 etc.) = Any old Cooey, CIL, or similar = $250 at the high end

If you're not in a rush to buy, there are good deals out there to be had on used firearms.
 
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Start with budget and requirements. How much do you have to spend and what do you want it to do?

For shotgun, it is hard to go wrong with the good old Maverick 88 in 12 gauge with a fixed Modified barrel. 12 gauge is *a lot* of gun at full honk with 3-inch magnum loads, but target loads aren't too bad for getting used to shooting and despite it being bigger than a 16/20/28 the ammo is far easier to find and cheaper, to a degree. That will take you from popping clays to grouse to turkey to waterfowl no problem. Stepping up a bit in price to a Mossberg or Remington or Benelli pump will get you interchangeable choke tubes and more improvements in build quality, adjustability, and aftermarket support. You need to decide if that is worth the cost.

For rifle, yes, Tikka rifles are awesome. I would absolutely recommend one for hunting. If you fancy deer, ignore the haters and get a 6.5 Creedmoor. Same as with the 12 gauge, it is really popular so there are some good values out there for hunting ammo. If you want to maybe take a pop at a black bear or moose I'd step up to a .308 Winchester, a bit more weight and frontal area with not much more recoil, also with a lot of ammo choices. If the Tikka price tag compromises your optics budget, I would look at a Savage 110 or Ruger American. Step down in build quality and fit and finish (reflected in the price tag) but they are safe and generally quite accurate.

New or used for the above is fine as those models are all in wide distribution with factory support and warranty available. Old used guns are neat and all, but you lose a support network and reliable parts supply. An example, I have a Savage 110 that arrived with a cracked trigger guard/bolt release. I opened a ticket on their website, got an email a day later from their support guy confirming my info and problem, and had a replacement in my mailbox in a few days.

You should also budget for a scope and a mounting system. Some guns include bases but you still need rings, and often the included bases aren't exactly the best quality. Most of the scope manufacturers with decent scope offerings in the lower range offer good mounts in the lower range as well, Vortex, Leupold, and Burris specifically. Talley and Warne make great stuff too. For scopes themselves, buy the best you can. Vortex Viper, Leupold VX-Freedom, and Burris Fullfield IV are all fine scopes with good warranty support that I would bet my hunt on without breaking the bank.

You also need a rimfire, period. That goes without saying around these parts, volume of fire is important for reinforcing good habits. I have no real preference here. Ruger 10/22 is a solid choice and a lot of fun. I've also got a Savage 93 bolt gun which is a lot of fun to shoot. I've owned a bunch of used guns, Cooey and related model are a staple in Canadian gun safes. I would probably stay away from "tacti-cool" guns for your first one. And you can scope it with pretty much anything, although you will appreciate decent glass with adjustable diopter if you plan to shoot a lot.
 
Check out Interruptus Nice double barreled shotguns starting at around $300, nice sporting rifles starting around $400. I have bought a few firearms from them; great value! Most recently a FEG 12 ga. SXS that looks and feels like new for $300.
 
What do want to hunt? Where? At what maximal distance? Do you want to take that rifle to the range to have fun with on the weekends or just to hunt?
 
Franchi Momentum. 6.5mm Creedmoor. Lots of parts compatibility with Remington, oddly enough.
Benelli Nova. 12 Gauge. Very reliable. Even has a magazine cut-off. Alternatively a Winchester SXP also works well.
Rimfire .22 rifle. I like the Savage MkII (is what I started with, and is made in Canada)
 
Hi there,

I'm new to hunting and to firearms in general, living in the Toronto area. Was curious if there are any suggestions on rifles/ shotguns/ calibre that would be good to start with? I was recommended Tikka as a great bolt action - any other suggestions?

Take all the suggestions from everyone, make a short list, and then go to the shops and check them out in person. Shoulder each one, work the action and play with the safety. One will speak to ya!

That being said, I do not own one yet, but you will be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't like their Tikka.
 
Don't over gun. !!!!!
I have a whole fleet of Remington 788s Bolt Actions
The best all around caliber is probably 308 - it drops everything. Cheap ammo too.

In my 788s
I use 6mm Remington, 243, 30-30 and 44 Magnum for deer - depends on my mood and the stand I'm in for distance.
If I really don't want to track a deer I hit'em with my 308, 30-30 or 44 magnum. Drops them cold.

I use 30-30, 44 mag, 308 for Black Bear
7mm-08, 308 for moose, elk depending on distance I know I might have.
again, these are all bolt actions.

Somebody mentioned 22LR which is fine.
I use 22 Magnum for teaching the kids and trigger practice. I have an Anshutz and CZ in 22 mag. They have a little more pop.
But trigger practice is critical. Use whichever 22 to get your trigger work very precise. Squeeze don't pull.
I have my trigger set at 3lbs to 3-3/4lbs and are perfect for trigger work, accuracy, and hunting safety.
I don't like carrying a rifle with too light a trigger in the crap I hunt in.
Personal preference - others may differ.
On a side note i have a 350 Legend bolt action that I love for deer and bear. It's a fabulous low recoil caliber.
Very effective under 150yds. We've taken 4 deer and 3 bear with it. Drops them cold.
 
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