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Hey,

I would like to get into the precision game. I would like to get a real precision rifle.

I would hunt moose with it or deer for sure.

I would like to get a heavy berrel .30 caliber rifle that can shot to 1000 yards. no need for more. I also do not want the ammo to cost 7$ a bullet.

I was thinking 700p or savage 10 fcp or something like that with a bipod and 4200 elite scope.

I am scared to get a 700 remigton after hearing all the horror stories with the safety issues.

I want it to be reliable and good for -30 weather. I do not want to spend more then $1500.

I would get a 303 british but they are old, and reliability is my concern or even parts accessability.

Any suggestions?

I already have a glock 20, and a 10/22 and a benelli mr1. I just need to fill the .30 caliber range.
 
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May I suggest you edit post op, get rid of "sniper rifle" and put "precision rifle." Otherwise the nancys get upset and blast you, and make comments how sniper rifles are for only military snipers and they're issued not bought blahblahblah. Unless you are indeed a sniper. Then my bad.
 
I thought 303 and reliability where synonymous?

Last I checked they are still used by our Canadian Forces in the far north by our Rangers. And from what I hear it is due to their reliability in the cold?!
 
Bandits said:
I thought 303 and reliability where synonymous?

Last I checked they are still used by our Canadian Forces in the far north by our Rangers. And from what I hear it is due to their reliability in the cold?!
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they are dropping it for a .308 caliber. Hard to get parts and reliability is starting to become a issue.
 
trekstor said:
I also do not want the ammo to cost 7$ a bullet.
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Sounds like you need to start reloading!

A rifle is a good place to start with precision shooting but more importantly than the rifle, you will need a reloading set up.


I'm not into hunting (yet) and wanted in the precision game like yourself. I bought a Savage 12 VLP DBM in 223 with a Sightron scope. Total cost was about $2000 after saving a couple hundread on the scope.

Also you should stay away from bi pods if you really want to get out to 1000 yards. I had a bipod but took it off and got a real front rest.

Good Luck!
 
Browning m-1000 eclipse. Mine shoots under an inch at 100 yards with cheap ammo in 300wsm. Very nice heavy barrel and thumbhole stock feels great.
 
Remington 700P. You can hit a 2 MOA target at 1000m with mine. I think it's a bit heavy for hunting, but that's just me. Mine happens to be for sale on the EE.
 
I am picking up a new 10 FCP McMillan .308 , without the bedding and accessories it it was under 1500. I am expecting it should be good to go for some long range and I plan on hunting with it. I will be shooting it next week so I will let you know.
 
trekstor said:
I am scared to get a 700 remigton after hearing all the horror stories with the safety issues.
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The safety issues are of no concern. That was all a bunch of misinformation in the media. A Remington is just as safe a rifle as any.

The only concern I have with Remington is every once in a while you will get one that does not shoot worth shat.


trekstor said:
I would hunt moose with it or deer for sure.
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How far? If you want to keep it in normal hunting ranges a 308 will do and will be more pleasant to shoot as a target gun. If you want to hunt long range a magnum 30 cal would be better but they will punish you at the range and during load development unless you put a brake on them.

I have one more piece of advice. Don't be fooled into thinking Long range shooting is a piece of cake. And if you want to hunt long range the skill required is 10 fold. Long range hunting now requires you to be able to make that 1000 yard shot cold bore.

The wind (obviously), ambient temperature, humidity, mirage, degree of incline and even the difference in your ammo being in the shade vs the sun is a huge deal. It is one hell of a good time but not a game for people who want to be instant experts in something.
 
If you are looking for a heavy barrel and accuracy out to 1000m from an "out of the box" rifle, buy a Tikka T3 Varmint; you will not find better bang for the buck in a comparable price range. My two cents...
 
I'm hoping to get into the precision shooting too, and from what i've been reading, the Tikka t3 varmint is pretty bad a$$. nive and accurate right out of the box, so i hear.
 
What you are describing to me is a 308. Good enough for Moose and Deer all day long and a great long distance shooter (ask the FT/R and Palma boys).

If you want a heavy barrel and want to still hunt with it then the 308 is perfect as you can go to a 20 inch heavy barrel and not give up much while still maintaining a managable weight.

I've had no experience with the Tikka's but the Rem 5R Milspec gets a lot of good press but the Savage 10 Precision Carbine sounds like a good choice for you (20 inch barrel saving weight but not sacrifisng accuracy and velocity).
 
I will be buying the ruger gunsite scout. Pretty much what i want. Is it good to a 1000 yards? Most liekely not ut will do fine in the nortb and artic. Pretty much .308 enflied jungle version.

Ill have to save up for a 110ba in 338 lm with a scope package.
 
I'd stay away from the Ruger. First of all its new and overpriced (imo). Also, for a few hundread less you can get a rifle that will shoot the same calibre further due to the longer barrel.

It's your money, but this is my advice.

Is it good to a 1000 yards?
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I doubt anyone here has had the rifle long enough to test it that far.
 
Take a look at the TC Icon Precision Hunter in 308, extremely accurate out of the box and fit to hunt as it is not to heavy... JP.
 
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The safety issues are of no concern. That was all a bunch of misinformation in the media. A Remington is just as safe a rifle as any.
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I don't consider it all misinformation. And today they may be as safe as any.
However, in the early 80's, I was hunting spring bear and had my 1975 Remington 700 BDL in 30-06 discharge when I pushed the safety forward. Fortunately it was pointed at the ground. I was stunned and just froze. My glove-less fingers were still wrapped around the stock. I was on an open trail without any vegetation / branches to contact the trigger. I had no loose clothing. I kept wondering what could have caused it. I took it into a gunsmith who found no problem. After that, except for upland game hunting with my over & under shotgun, I don't chamber a round in any firearm until I'm ready to shoot.

For 20+ years I'd gone over it trying to figure out what caused it. Then a few years ago, looking for turkey chokes on the Remington internet site, I stumbled across the offer to modify the safety. I then researched the issue. Anyway, I sent it away to a Remington gunsmith who made the changes for free. I still don't chamber a round until needed.
 
Whipper Billy it was not the firearm the problem ... a loaded ammo in the firearm is always a problem that will come. never trust a safety whatever the model except maybe the mauser model used by bloodtracker in europe.

back to the topic for the OP ill go with the Marlin Varmint XS7 in 308 you ll be surprised. of course if you can find one.

all the best.
 
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