Erm.. that's a tough one. - shipping overseas -

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Okay..

just to remind everibody, i'm an Italian living in Italy.

Well, my firearms license should arrive shortly.. and with such, a 2007 Norinco M14s should arrive as well.

Now, there's some things i can do here, or buy here,
and some that i just can't.
Gas tube unitizing, for one, i don't think i'll ever find someone
who knows what he's doing.

It'd be a real PITButtocks legally.. but it'll be fun nonethless to try,
it even may be legal ( a gas cylinder, it's not like a barrel or bolt.. it should be easy ), so...

Would it be legally possible, from your side of the pond,
to ship an unitized gas block? what would you require ( else than money.. :D )
anyone would take the hassle of doing it?

thanks in advance..
 
AFAIK, it's totally legal to ship such a part from Canada to Italy, with no permit required.*

*Unless, and this is a big unless, the part(s) were imported to Canada under the authority of a U.S. DOS Export Permit. A standard condition of these permits is that the part cannot be transferred to anyone else without the express permission of the U.S. DOS.
 
If you can get an import permit from Italy to import it, odds are we can get an export permit to ship it. If no import permit is required by Italy for that part, it may be possible to export one without an export permit.

Canada requires a permit for barrels, frames, bolts, cylinders, and certain other items, but I suspect a unitized gas sytem is not a problem.
 
Wendell said:
AFAIK, it's totally legal to ship such a part from Canada to Italy, with no permit required.*

*Unless, and this is a big unless, the part(s) were imported to Canada under the authority of a U.S. DOS Export Permit. A standard condition of these permits is that the part cannot be transferred to anyone else without the express permission of the U.S. DOS.
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i'll ask Police on my side of the ocean wheter the gas tube is considered "vital firearm component" or not. Such are barrels, bolts, magazines.
if it is not, it may just be shipped as a regular good.

ETA: i've seen the Unitized Gas Cylinder on Brownell's. weird that they've got two models on sale, different price. they clearly state that an export license will be required, if the item is US$100 or more in value.
what, if i just buy the regular gas cylinder ( US$50 or so ) i need no license.. ?
 
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Your going to take the word of a bunch of Canadians on the internet about importing parts to Italy from the United States....Ummmm. Maybe instead; someone can help you start up a new webpage called Italiangunutz.com where you can get input from people that actually know Italian import regulations.

Just a thought

good luck with your gas tube.
 
ViktorF said:
Your going to take the word of a bunch of Canadians on the internet about importing parts to Italy from the United States....Ummmm. Maybe instead; someone can help you start up a new webpage called Italiangunutz.com where you can get input from people that actually know Italian import regulations.

Just a thought

good luck with your gas tube.
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LOL

i'm right on the thing here, i'll do my part.
thing is, i didn't know somebody was actually selling new unitized gas tubes - not someone like Brownell's.

And yet Brownell's could be troublesome to deal with - it's US law i guess.
maybe Canadian gun laws are different?

:confused:
 
The US is pretty weird about gun related exports these days... just in case it gets in the hand of Al Qaeda etc...

Good luck!

PS, Monica Belluci is a nice Italian girl, too bad she married a guy from France. I missed out.
 
I don't think he's talking about anything from the US...

...the US should have nothing to do with a Norinco M14s/M305 gas system being unitized by a knowledgeable Canadian gunsmith. Hell the US won't even let the damn rifles into their country...

...lucky for us.

My suggestion would be to contact the first listing under the Canada heading in this CGN Thread; Contacts For Importing and Exporting Firearms, as well as whatever gov't department in Italy that is their equivalent.

Some of the info you will need about Canadian exporting can probably be found here; Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada.

Just to let you know there is a guy in Italy who sells Garand parts on Ebay, if you can find him, he may have some firsthand knowledge on Italian import/export regulations of firearm parts.
 
I'm trying to reduce the grief and headaches for you so bear with me..... :cool:

If you are shooting long ranges in Italy (500m and farther) then unitizing the gas cylinder assembly would be worthwhile. Or at least tightening things up by shimming the gas cylinder snug against the barrel shoulders.

When I competed NRA High Power up to 600 yards, welding or unitizing was worthwhile and beneficial. Now that I'm shooting my Norc M14 inside 500m, I have merely shimmed things nice and tight. I did not bother with the welding procedure. :rolleyes:

So in an effort to save you some Aspirins or Advils; are you shooting or planning to shoot yer M14 500m and beyond? Is the effort of welding that significant to endure all this paperwork (real or perceived)?

Shims and / or shim kits are lots cheaper! :D
 
Hungry said:
I'm trying to reduce the grief and headaches for you so bear with me..... :cool:

If you are shooting long ranges in Italy (500m and farther) then unitizing the gas cylinder assembly would be worthwhile. Or at least tightening things up by shimming the gas cylinder snug against the barrel shoulders.

When I competed NRA High Power up to 600 yards, welding or unitizing was worthwhile and beneficial. Now that I'm shooting my Norc M14 inside 500m, I have merely shimmed things nice and tight. I did not bother with the welding procedure. :rolleyes:

So in an effort to save you some Aspirins or Advils; are you shooting or planning to shoot yer M14 500m and beyond? Is the effort of welding that significant to endure all this paperwork (real or perceived)?

Shims and / or shim kits are lots cheaper! :D
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yeah, shims look much cheaper and straightforward.
well, i still DON'T know how much/how far i'll be shooting the thing.
we've got some nice valleys here, it's a montainous terrain,
and i could end up enjoying the >600m distance.
Though official ranges here, don't go further than 300 meters.
 
GLADIO said:
yeah, shims look much cheaper and straightforward.
well, i still DON'T know how much/how far i'll be shooting the thing.
we've got some nice valleys here, it's a montainous terrain,
and i could end up enjoying the >600m distance.
Though official ranges here, don't go further than 300 meters.
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I say you just bed the stock, change the oprod spring guide, shim the gas system, throw a set of M1 Garand Rear sites on, work up a good load combo and wail away on it!

Save up some money for a Savage or Remington heavy barrel then you can use that to strike fear into the stumps and rocks in those beautiful Italian valleys from far away :rockOn:

Only my opinion...:yingyang:
 
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