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Does anyone have experience with Steyr, Sig, and Sako?

I own a number of Sako rifles, and have handled one Steyr Pro Hunter at a gun shop; I've never had the pleasure of seeing a Sig in the flesh.

I really like Sako, but am interested in expanding my horrizons eventually. Tikka doesn't interest me, I like to save my money and purchase a few very nice firearms rather than buy a larger number of less expensive ones (I just really believe in quality over quantity).

So, how do Steyr, Sig, and Sako stack-up against one-another?
 
Don't know anything about SIG, but Steyr and Sako are first rate in every respect - nicely finished and accurate firearms. The older Mannlicher Schoenauer's are extraordinarly finished.. as are the Super Deluxe or Safari Sako's. Both companies make very accurate rifles. I prefer the front locking lugs and the grooved reciever scope mounting provision on the Sako's for no reason other than just because. AP
 
I have a Steyr Model S Luxus and a Sako L61R. I am also familiar with the Sauer 90 and 202. I like them all, but feel that the Sauer is a cut above the SBS and the Sako. As I'm sure you have noticed, the price is a cut above also. I am speaking of fit, finish, general workmanship and quality of materials. The latter being especially true with respect to wood stocks. Have you considered the Mauser 03? It is a switch barrel system and is available for about $3200, which is a little more than a Sauer.
 
I have four Sako's right now. My first was new but significantly discounted, the other three have had previous owners.

I looked at the Steyr Pro Hunter but did not care for the feel as much as my four rifles. I like the look of the Sig (Sauer) but have never had the opportunity to handle one. I've looked at the Mauser website. Beautiful.

My financial situation is stable, but honestly, $3,200 rifles are not in the cards right now. I will probably be buyng used quality Europeans for the forseeable future.
 
I will probably be buyng used quality Europeans for the forseeable future.
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I mentioned this to someone else, but there is a Mauser 99 at Italian Sporting Goods for $1100 or 1200. It is .300 Wby. I have one in a 7mm RM. They are AWESOME.
 
Yes. 604-254-7513. I think. These rifles came with a 1/2" 3 shot guarantee. It is only the 4th used one I have seen. The others were a .257 Wby ( very rare), a .308 ( that was dirt cheap, but I missed out :( ) and a .375 H&H ( another one that I should have bought )
 
The Mauser 99, made in Oberndorf Germany, and is the same rifle as the Klinegunther K-15 and the Voere Titan II. Here are some pics. Maybe I'll take some of mine to show you. They came with oiled or shiny finish. I have oiled and prefer the look. I have not seen one with double set trigger. They are supposed to have the fastest lock time of any rifle built (at the time). Their triggers are excellent. You can load them up hot and the 26" barrel makes good use of heavy charges. The action is incredibly smooth, you have to feel it to believe it. If I point the barrel down at a 45 degree angle, hold the trigger and release the bolt from a fully opened position it will slide down and lock under its own weight. I have yet to see ANY other rifle do this.

http://www.shootist.ab.ca/drif18.html - this is the one that got away. :x
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976647711.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976484019.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976484021.htm
http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/r2982.htm
 
I handled a beautiful Sigsauer in 375 H&H (used ) just the other day, man, was that really a beautiful rifle, the finish and the smoothness of the action was something else.

OH, BTW, it's also for sale, but i did not enquire as to the price as i'm not looking for a 375 (if it was a 270, i would probably have bought it, even though i wasn't looking to buy a rifle, i was doing other business)

If you're interested in this rifle (or anyone else) i can enquire as to the price, just PM me so not to hijack this thread.
 
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If I point the barrel down at a 45 degree angle, hold the trigger and release the bolt from a fully opened position it will slide down and lock under its own weight. I have yet to see ANY other rifle do this.
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I've done that with 3 Steyrs I think...maybe only 2 though
 
Last year I was at a friend's garage having a coffee. A gentleman brought in and left a 60's Mercedes-Benz for an oil change. My friend opened the driver-side door and said "listen", he then gently shut the door. After opening and closing that door for over 40 years, you could still hear a nice crisp "click" on the latching mechanism. As a matter of fact, the darn thing resonated afterwards for a good 2-3 seconds!

My point? IMHO, you can't beat German and/or Austrian engineering , they ARE the masters of the gun world.

My friend has a Voere Titan II in 30-06, X2 with 1899, beauty of a rifle and a pleasure to work the bolt. Recently, he added a Sauer Mod. 90 in 300 Wby. Mag. to his collection, another fine piece of engineering. Place these two rifles next to a Win., Rem. or Sav. and you'll know what I mean.
 
"My point? IMHO, you can't beat German engineering , they ARE the masters of the gun world."

Well, sort of. They did build the 98 after all, but since then, all they seem to want to do is come up with the most complicated, Rube Goldberg designs you can think of. "Yes, we could do this with 3 parts, but look what happens when we build it with 247, it's 0.03% smoother" kind of thing. And yes, I currently own some, and have owned others in the past. FWIW - dan
 
Asl Bill Leeper his opinion of Voere's and Klienguenther's, they had a very bad reliability problem when Guncraft was selling them.
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Bill please fill us in. I have had mine since ~1985, my friend (.300 WM) has had his since the same time, and his son (7mm RM) has had one since then too. That is 20+ years of use with dozens of heads of game, thousands of rounds down range and no failures of any sort.

What have you heard Buckbrush? :|
 
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