Explaining Canadian pricing
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Economy of scale. We're 30 million people, the States is 300 million. When you're selling a million guns a year you can afford to pay for a fancy building, staff, etc. by selling at MSRP. Up here some might be lucky to sell a thousand guns a year and have the same overhead. You do the math.
sounds like the same ugly head rearing itself like in the bike industry where the distributors are dictating what they want up here.
HOWEVER, on the flip side and also encouraging I have found one of the retail supporters here in the GTA has pricing either the same or in some cases just slightly below Beretta MSRP. Perhaps applicable in some special circumstances of a particular model?
HOWEVER, on the flip side and also encouraging I have found one of the retail supporters here in the GTA has pricing either the same or in some cases just slightly below Beretta MSRP. Perhaps applicable in some special circumstances of a particular model?
i don't know where you're getting your "web" prices, but i paid 475 for my neos , otc 4.5 inch in stainless from wss- maybe you need to look around a bit more- and it's going for 370 roughly across the border- a lot of places sell for less than mrsp as well
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Bushnell TRS-25
Stateside = $70 - $100
Here = $165 - $180
Stateside = $70 - $100
Here = $165 - $180
Wolverine Supplies is a sponsor here and I am sure they are a good company to deal with - perhaps they can shed some light. Their price for either barrel length is $410. That's 30% more than the US price Beretta is showing.
I don't mind a small difference, but I can't figure out why the pistol is 30% more expensive, but the rifle is spot on. Particularly since the loonie is at par or better than the greenback.
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I don't mind a small difference, but I can't figure out why the pistol is 30% more expensive, but the rifle is spot on. Particularly since the loonie is at par or better than the greenback.
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Books/magazines are close to the same now, but cds video games movies, guns, cars, even clothes and food usually cost more here.
Guns may be a good example of the markup but nearly all of these things are imported and owned by out-of-our-borders companies.
People have been crossing the border and buying cars for say 60-70% cheaper than here paying all duties and taxes and STILL coming out ahead.
Internet/cell cost isn't equal, and that is a product that doesn't have the same overall cost vs item cost, like a single book would. A book costs a certain amount to produce a certain number of products, cell towers and internet cable is paid for and built and technically doesn't cost anything more if the system is used or unused.
We may have less people so that is a factor but that can't be the only reason.
This isn't the only time you'll pay more, wanna bet your pc/mac is cheaper south of the border?
If there is a true answer to why I'd like to hear it.
Too many middle men and too high mark up.
Not only for firearms but other stuff too.
Just yesterday I saw a new type of heater at Costco for $149, same one at Rona is $349. Ouch!
I ordered a brand new deLonghi dehumidifier in Bronx, New York (not kidding) for $120 plus $50 shipping, same one at the local Sears is $449. The guy from the Bronx even threw in a New York pen and a key holder with New York motive, lol.
My wife couldn't believe it.
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Not only for firearms but other stuff too.
Just yesterday I saw a new type of heater at Costco for $149, same one at Rona is $349. Ouch!
I ordered a brand new deLonghi dehumidifier in Bronx, New York (not kidding) for $120 plus $50 shipping, same one at the local Sears is $449. The guy from the Bronx even threw in a New York pen and a key holder with New York motive, lol.
My wife couldn't believe it.
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The gun price starts to be somewhat comparable (especially the new ones) to US prices (even still higher).
At least that is what I feel. Some of the vendors on CGN are really nice to deal with. Their
prices are good too (usually with free shipping) when checking with gunbroker website.
At least that is what I feel. Some of the vendors on CGN are really nice to deal with. Their
prices are good too (usually with free shipping) when checking with gunbroker website.
- Location
- South Central, Manitoba
so the guy that does the legwork of importing, transporting, stocking, staffing, lighting and heating is not entitled to earn a profit eh?
i listen to people cry about prices everyday. nobody even considers ALL that is required to get that gun, or bike or even a lousy hamburger to the consumer.
has anyone looked at their hydro bill lately? add 10% to the multipliers and you might come close to what a business pays per kwh. then multiply that by the number of sq ft that the business heats and or lights up.
how about your telephone bills? same thing, business's pay more for basic phone charges than households.
oh and the guy or gal that has to hold your hand while your crying about the price has to be paid too!!!
we pay for convenience of having the products we want in our neighbourhoods.
that means ALL costs associated with bringing those items to you are paid by ummmm you. same as if you had to do the legwork yourself.
we pay for the service (or lack thereof) that business's offer. (alot of lazy people in service jobs these days)
hey, remember cryin bout the price of fuel at some point? take that fuel, add a wage for a driver, maintenance on his vehicle, purchase of said vehicle to the price of your gun, bike, hamburger or whatever!!! thats called transportation costs.
woops!! almost forgot the expense of importing thaings that some whacky people cosider hazardous to our health too. lol
yeah, we all want a better deal, myself included. but sometimes, we just need to sit back and look at the big picture and stop blaming people for going into business to make money. shame on them!! they should do all of this out of the goodness of their hearts!! lmao
i listen to people cry about prices everyday. nobody even considers ALL that is required to get that gun, or bike or even a lousy hamburger to the consumer.
has anyone looked at their hydro bill lately? add 10% to the multipliers and you might come close to what a business pays per kwh. then multiply that by the number of sq ft that the business heats and or lights up.
how about your telephone bills? same thing, business's pay more for basic phone charges than households.
oh and the guy or gal that has to hold your hand while your crying about the price has to be paid too!!!
we pay for convenience of having the products we want in our neighbourhoods.
that means ALL costs associated with bringing those items to you are paid by ummmm you. same as if you had to do the legwork yourself.
we pay for the service (or lack thereof) that business's offer. (alot of lazy people in service jobs these days)
hey, remember cryin bout the price of fuel at some point? take that fuel, add a wage for a driver, maintenance on his vehicle, purchase of said vehicle to the price of your gun, bike, hamburger or whatever!!! thats called transportation costs.
woops!! almost forgot the expense of importing thaings that some whacky people cosider hazardous to our health too. lol
yeah, we all want a better deal, myself included. but sometimes, we just need to sit back and look at the big picture and stop blaming people for going into business to make money. shame on them!! they should do all of this out of the goodness of their hearts!! lmao
Unforgiven: I am all for capitalism. The Beretta comes from Italy and the Sako comes from Finland. It can't cost a whole lot more to import here than it does to the US.
Your argument also doesnt take into account that the rifle is exactly where Berettas list price is pretty well bang on list price.
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Your argument also doesnt take into account that the rifle is exactly where Berettas list price is pretty well bang on list price.
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- Location
- South Central, Manitoba
From what I have found in many different things that I shop for, is list price don't mean squat to most canadian businesses. Lol
Yet somehow, in the states the same items are lower than list.
It's just the way it goes.
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price is just that, a suggestion, doesn't mean people listen. Alot of times, markets will bear a higher price, and alot of times it won't. Depends greatly on demand for any given item.
Let's think about it another way.
There's a high demand for fuel, so the prices go higher. Take a long weekend into that example, and it goes even higher!!
The government in its finest wisdom has been trying to get people to quit smoking for a few years now. The problem with them doing that, is that smoking actually pays for most of the country's healthcare. Alot of people have quit, but healthcare costs don't go down, so guess what? That's right, raise the prices more, which means more people quit, hence the prices need to keep increasing. Supply & Demand by the canadian government.
Thats just a good example of a large corporation that gets its profit from you & I the consumer.
Yet somehow, in the states the same items are lower than list.
It's just the way it goes.
Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price is just that, a suggestion, doesn't mean people listen. Alot of times, markets will bear a higher price, and alot of times it won't. Depends greatly on demand for any given item.
Let's think about it another way.
There's a high demand for fuel, so the prices go higher. Take a long weekend into that example, and it goes even higher!!
The government in its finest wisdom has been trying to get people to quit smoking for a few years now. The problem with them doing that, is that smoking actually pays for most of the country's healthcare. Alot of people have quit, but healthcare costs don't go down, so guess what? That's right, raise the prices more, which means more people quit, hence the prices need to keep increasing. Supply & Demand by the canadian government.
Thats just a good example of a large corporation that gets its profit from you & I the consumer.
FYI the cig tax money goes into general revenue not directly into healthcare as it should....
I think most of you are missing the point. It's a pain in the ass to import guns out of the states. Not to mention a head ache. You have to jump through so many loops and fill out lots of paper work. It all takes time and money. Each export permit cost $250. Then you have shipping and customs brokerage fees on top of that. Do the math, you wouldn't be able to export it for less if you did it yourself. You would actually be paying at least 30% more.
