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Shakky

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I had a bad experience when a member of my hunting party had an accidental discharge coming off full ####. Muzzle control was there so it went into the ground but still. Winchester 30 30. I'm now looking at a muzzle loader. I have zero experience with them. I need one with a short lop so the Thompson Impact looks good but the hammer is making me uneasy. The budget is $500.00 max. Is there a way to come off full #### without pulling the trigger and bringing the hammer down? Is there another muzzle loader I should be looking for.

Thanks.
 
I do not think there is any firearm that does not have a hammer function to the firing pin. Might be external hammer like Win Model 94; might be internal in line striker like a Ruger 10/22. Once cocked, have to deal with that to be able to "un ####" it. If having difficulties with an external hammer - and nothing is bent or broken - imagine dealing with an internal striker where everything is hidden from view...

Maybe recall that external hammer guns - back to flintlock or earlier - have been safely used for 200 or 300 years. Likely 10's of thousands, perhaps millions, of them. Maybe the issue you are having, is not really about the mechanism?
 
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Shakky: Remove the percussion cap from the nipple, first. Or primer, in the case of the Impact. The hammer can then be safely lowered without danger of discharge. If unable to do so, follow TC's de-cocking procedure in the manual.
 
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OP - go here: https://www.tcarms.com/pdfs/uploads/manuals/TC_IMPACT_Manual_11-15-16.pdf That is the User Manual from Thompson Center Arms for that T/C Impact. You will note that T/C does NOT say to walk around with a charge inserted and a primer in the nipple - specifically says to set primer into nipple just before firing, and then to remove it if you chose not to fire. Is no requirement to #### the hammer to charge it or to insert the primer. I think about page 27 has instructions for how to de-#### a hammer, if you decide not to shoot, after cocking the hammer. Hammer is not cocked to insert a charge or to seat a primer.
 
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Potashminer said:
I do not think there is any firearm that does not have a hammer function to the firing pin. Might be external hammer like Win Model 94; might be internal in line striker like a Ruger 10/22. Once cocked, have to deal with that to be able to "un ####" it. If having difficulties with an external hammer - and nothing is bent or broken - imagine dealing with an internal striker where everything is hidden from view...

Maybe recall that external hammer guns - back to flintlock or earlier - have been safely used for 200 or 300 years. Likely 10's of thousands, perhaps millions, of them. Maybe the issue you are having, is not really about the mechanism?
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I hunted with a 97 Pumpgun for years as well as a 94 and never had an incident. Make sure your thumb is dry and always have pointed in a safe direction just in case.
 
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