FabarmProForces VS. Mossberg590A1

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Hi all,

I have a few shotties now but nothing "practical/tactical".
I would really like to get into 3 gun style matches but I can't decide between the Mossberg 590A1 or the Fabarm Pro Forces in 14".
I considered the Valtro PM5 14", but not enough good news and pricey mags kept me looking the other way.
I like that fact that a bayo can be mounted on the 590A1, but i have heard lots about the smooth action on the Pro Forecs, and the 14" barrel is a definate plus!
I would like to mount a light on there, like an M3, an EOTech 512 and a possible muzzle break.
That being said, what are the real differences between the two?
I would like to know what is the better, feature and function wise, of the two and why?
I would not be getting the gun until mid to late summer, but I thought I should start saving up early.
Thank you all for your time and patience.




-sixty9santa
 
Without having handled either, but knowing one costs twice as much as the other (one being Italian and the other US)... the difference would mostly be in finish. (I do own a Benelli and have owned 870's and a Winchester)

Both will do what you want; the mossberg might need a few more "accessories"... but the finish is where most of the extra money goes.
The Fabarms will probably have no visible tooling marks. It will be "tight" and the finish/paint will be superb.
These shotguns are kinda like art pieces.

If these things matter... go with the Fabarms. If you want tactical but don't want to spend a small fortune go Mossberg :)
Enjoy whatever you decide and post pics!!

P.S. In the future, replacement parts for the Fabarms "might" be a PITA to get, wheras the Mossberg will be no problem (the benefits of buying american) :D
 
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I have a martial pro-forces 14" and I love it. A muzzle break (factory made) costs around $50 and simply threads onto the pre-threaded barrel. Barrel is chrome-lined and it is a very comfortable shooter. One can also buy a picatinny rail for the front grip to mount whatever flashlight you would want on it.

I think a mossberg would have more aftermarket accessories though, although it will be hard pressed to compare apples to apples on these two. The fabarm is finished very well, and is very smooth.

Pretty much echoing what G37 said above. Good luck
 
I have a Fabarm Martial Pro-Forces 14" and I will add to what has already been said that the sights on the Fabarm are superior to the ones on the Mossberg 590A1. They are LPA Shotgun ghost ring sights, there's no comparison.

In regard to parts availability, I already bought some in advance (e.g.: firing pin, extractor, springs, etc.):D

Yan
 
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If you check the 2006 pricing on the Fabarms you will be pleasantly surprised. For practical shotgun shooting you may want to look at the SDASS models as they will give you better magazine capacity.
 
Yes I have seen your pricing (IIRC 750$) but I have also seen Wholesale Sports IIRC 570$ for the 590A1.
Both great prices for sure.
Does the Fabarm have a steel reciever?
And wasn't the SDASS once available with a 14" barrel?
And once last question, what are the key difference between the SDASS series and the Martial series?
Thanks for your patience.



-sixty9santa
 
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i just bought a mossy because i think its the best bang for the buck. in other words, i just dont have enough flow for a more expensive one
 
sixty9santa said:
Yes I have seen your pricing (IIRC 750$) but I have also seen Wholesale Sports IIRC 570$ for the 590A1.
Both great prices for sure.
Does the Fabarm have a steel reciever?
And wasn't the SDASS once available with a 14" barrel?
And once last question, what are the key difference between the SDASS series and the Martial series?
Thanks for your patience.



-sixty9santa

Well it doesn't look like 2x the price to me.;)

FABARM are aluminum receivered.

SDASS has the longer mag tube, other than that they are the same.

Note also that the FABARM guns are now all threaded for choke tubes/muzzle brakes, so you can choke up your gun as required. In my opinion this provides more value flexibility then the Mossbergs.
 
I must say I'm disappointed in Fabarm. I was pretty excited about the nickel-plated SDASS I bought from Ellwood Epps. That is, until I brought it home and field stripped it. The inside of the receiver was full of nickel flakes. Honestly, the finish looked like some kind of glued-on tinfoil. It was peeling everywhere. Fortunately, Ellwood Epps was nice enough to let me return the gun. I still wanted to get a Fabarm, so I asked them to show me the blued version of the same gun. Check the finish - looks good. Put two snap caps in - first cycles fine, the second get pulled from the magazine tube but doesn't go into the chamber. That is not what I was expecting from a premium Italian shotgun. Maybe it was just bad luck, but I think I'm gonna put the thought of owning a Fabarm to rest. And that's a shame, as they sure are good looking guns.
 
I was just looking at the Fabarm at Royal sportsman, seemed liked a nice gun, looking for a bear gun in the $300-550 range so it is this or a Moss 500-590.

Read as many of the existing threads on Fabarms shotguns here, anymore comments people would like to make?
 
The Fabarm is extremely qood quality and noticeably easier to cycle than my Remington or Valtro as it has a spring outside the mag tube so you get a forward assist chambering the rounds. the rear peep sight has fiber optics side dots which is an additional aid. There is ample space for reddot optics as it has a picatinny rail on the receiver in addition to the one you can buy for the underside of the foreend. Mag capacity on the 14 incher is 4 rounds (actually about 4 1/2 shells in the 2 3/4" length) but I'm going to see if I can get a 1 round extension to thread on it as it would then be flush with the compensator and give you 5 +1 in the chamber.
 
I've owned both (Mossberg 590A1 and a Fabarm Martial Tactical 14") and I would hands down choose the Fabarm!
-Rick
 
We have used the 870P in the worst conditions imaginable and they still works... Their finish is thicker than the Mossy. Mossy is still a good gun, but the 870P is hard to beat. But it doesn't have all the flashy things of the Fabarm.

Think about the replacement part. Rem. are easy to get everywhere and there is a lot of aftermarket goodies if you want to customize it. Not the same for the Fabarm. The new 870P max have a lot to offer compare to the plain model.

Just my 2 cents!
 
Most of the 870P's I have seen new are in the $600 plus range and out of my budget. I am already taking flak from the wife for looking at $550 over the $315 for the Moss 500.
 
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