Famae SAF 9mm replacement mags

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Well, I took the plunge and bought a few of the 9mm ProMag "Colt AR15" polymer mags irunguns had on their website, as another member had tried them in his SAF with some success.

This is an edit to my original post. Conclusion: they work, and work well. With some modifications. Several range trips to tinker, and I'm very pleased with the final result.

What I did / you will need to do:

1/ After some experimentation, I've discovered that this is actually the only step you NEED to do. The rest is optional. You will need to notch the rear of the mag body, to allow the SAF's mag release something to hook onto. Once this is done, the mags lock in firmly, and actually release more easily and more smoothly than the crappy factory mags. FAMAE mag on the right, ProMag on the left.



Original shallow notch. The mag would unseat itself from the magwell under recoil.



Deeper notch, which was added to all subsequent mags:




2/ In my initial prototype mag, I removed the follower and flattened it - the ProMag follower is more angled than the SAF follower. Original follower on the left, follower modified for the SAF on the right. Turns out this makes no real difference in feeding. Not necessary to do this. Skip it.



3/ There is play front-to-rear with these mags, and I noticed on my prototype mag that it seemed to feed more reliably with the mag pushed to the rear of the magwell, rather than the front. Since I had had to remove the rivet to access the follower anyway, I decided to pin it from the front with a protruding screw, which pushes the mag to the rear of the magwell.







Later mags, without the modified follower, were tested with and without the screw. Those with the screw functioned 100%. Those without the screw functioned nearly as well, but did have occasional feeding issues. I'd recommend the screw, but it's not vital.
 
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RRA 10/32 pistol mags worked fine for 500 rounds for me. No mods, held in by pressure and a magwell grip.

I think the rivet in your is causing the mag to tilt the top forward, causing the follower problem. It might be why you need to adjust the follower. I haven't had any issues with the RRA follower.
 
I modded the follower before I added the screw - with the unmodified follower, it didn't feed the last round reliably with the mag against the front of the magwell. I modded the Promag follower to be closer in profile to the Famae follower, and it started feeding almost 100% when pushed against the front of the magwell, and absolutely perfectly when pushed against the back of the magwell. Hence the screw. What does the follower in your RRA mag look like? With a magwell grip, I imagine you'd be pushing the mag against the rear of the magwell?
 
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Identical to the promag you used. No stoppages. No modifications though to anything on the mag. Just plug and play and ten rounds. It "just happened to fit and function" haha.

Seriously way more fun with ten rounds.
 
Tried out both the metal LAR and plastic RRA mags today. All functioned 100%, locked open and best of all 10rds. Simple notch on the back to lock in the mag. As quoted, a 5 min job with a dremel and file.
 
I hate to be that guy.

Technically, if you modify the 10 round magazines to function in a 'rifle' (which supposedly the gun is classified as), you have to pin them to 5.

I suppose you could argue they already work without modification and you are just making them work better.....but .......
 
I hate to be that guy.

Technically, if you modify the 10 round magazines to function in a 'rifle' (which supposedly the gun is classified as), you have to pin them to 5.
I don't believe that is accurate. Quite like how you can legally put >5 rounds into a Beowulf magazine because it was "designed or manufactured" for 5 rounds of .50 cal, you can modify a pistol magazine to fit another firearm. You are not "manufacturing" by making a cut in the same way you are not "manufacturing" a new barrel by cutting an existing one down.

To wit: RCMP bulletin 72 makes no mention of modification, only design and manufacture. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm
 
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I don't believe that is accurate. Quite like how you can legally put >5 rounds into a Beowulf magazine because it was "designed or manufactured" for 5 rounds of .50 cal, you can modify a pistol magazine to fit another firearm. You are not "manufacturing" by making a cut in the same way you are not "manufacturing" a new barrel by cutting an existing one down.

To wit: RCMP bulletin 72 makes no mention of modification, only design and manufacture. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Well put GE!!!!!
 
I don't believe that is accurate. Quite like how you can legally put >5 rounds into a Beowulf magazine because it was "designed or manufactured" for 5 rounds of .50 cal, you can modify a pistol magazine to fit another firearm. You are not "manufacturing" by making a cut in the same way you are not "manufacturing" a new barrel by cutting an existing one down.

To wit: RCMP bulletin 72 makes no mention of modification, only design and manufacture. http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/bulletins/bus-ent/20110323-72-eng.htm

Agreed. You are not modifying the capacity nor are you making it so it no longer fits in the oem pistol.
 
I could be wrong, however;

There were some people here who had talked to the SFSS about modifying 10 round pistol mags to fit in other firearms than they were originally designed for, and the conclusion was that if you modified the firearm, you were good to go, but if you modified the pistol mag to fit a rifle you had to pin to 5.
Example 1 - Lar7.62x39 pistol mag modified to fit an sks would have to be pinned to 5 but if you modified only the sks instead, it could stay at 10
Example 2- Modifying a 10 round 1911 mag to fit a rifle (those lee enfield .45acp ones), you would have to pin to 5, but if you modified the magwell on the rifle, it could stay at 10

So like bulletin 72 says, you could put a pistol mag in a rifle if it happens to fit and use 10 rounds.
But if you modify the pistol mag to fit the rifle, you have now remanufactured/modified it to be a rifle magazine.

Now, like I said, I could be wrong. And I doubt anyone is likely to notice the modification to that notch (it's not like you are cutting a completely separate notch somewhere else on the mag). Just that this type of thing had come in the past and that was the conclusion.

I don't like mag laws either.

Having said that, I'm not paying anyone else's lawyers bill, so it's none of my business what you guys do to your mags ;)
 
Spent a couple of range trips perfecting the mags I started this thread to discuss, and they're all now 100% functional, feed reliably, and lock the bolt back reliably :) If I can find any, I'm going to buy a bunch more, now that I know they work! If anyone knows who has these or the RRA or similar ones in stock, let me know. IRG no longer seems to have them.





 
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