I was out checking grouping with my old Cooey 60 repeater's. I thought that 1in. at 25yds was pretty good using the iron sights. Then I tried the American Eagle 38gr. and was amazed to see 10 shots go into a 3/4in hole with one flier widening it to 1 1/4 in. at the same distance with the same rifle. I also brought some Federal Champion 36gr. to try,they showed much promise with the first three shots going into a nice triangle about 3/8 apart. I was so happy to get this kind of accuracy from these open sights that I started bouncing the 12ga cartridges that were laying around the base of the target. All in all the bulk "Champion High Velocity" Federal rounds shoot pretty darn well. I will have to stock up on them.KD