Filthie Comes In From The 1940's

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Glenfilthie

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And not by choice, mind you.

These new fangled electronic sights are an offense to the eye! There is nothing ###er than an electronic sight on a fine rifle except for maybe those spoilers you kids are putting on your pi$$ burning small cars!

With that mandatory disclaimer and curmudgeonly doggerel out of the way, one of the old farts at the gun club introduced me to what he called a civilian version of the Eotech sight. It had the television screen/plastic/modular look that cranks like me find so offensive...but once you look through it...well...it was literally love at first sight! I am either coming out of the closet or going over to the dark side, I want one of these now in the worst way. It had a red ring with a red dot in the middle and it seemed to float a couple feet out from the gun. Even with no magnification...it was sweet. Even eyes as bad as mine will work with a sight like that! And while it will ruin the rugged good looks of my standard flat top AR...I figure I can live with it.

Question...do any of you guys use the holosight on your AR with that standard front sight? Will it work with a standard AR15 rifle? Much as I love that sight I do not want to be chopping or modding my rifle. Your two cents is appreciated...
 
If you have a flat-top ar, you can use a iron sights and a holo-sight at the same time. Works perfect with or without the space -age, electronic, l.e.d. powered, battery opperated holographic reflection reticle. Thats good, because glass can break, but irons remain.

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The Eotech 553 lines up with the front sight on my Stag 2T and the Arms flip up rear sight. The Eotech is designed to do this.

Something to be aware of. The fake ones or knock offs aren't true hologram sights. The real ones such as the Eotech, Mepro M21 (as found on the Tavor) require good eye sight. If you have a stigmatism the reticle will be a bunch of blurred dots.

Here's a quick example for you. After working my two night shifts, it takes two days for me to be rested back up. After the night shifts my right eyesight isn't perfect. I had this tested a few months back. The right eye was less. When I look through the sights the centre isn't clear, it's a bunch of dots rather than the 1 moa dot. Strangely enough after two days of recovery, my right eyesight seems to return to normal. I check the holograph sights again and they are perfect. I've done this a number of times, so I know it's my eyesight and that it corrects itself after a few days of regular sleep with no night shifts.
 
Epoxy7 said:
The Eotech 553 lines up with the front sight on my Stag 2T and the Arms flip up rear sight. The Eotech is designed to do this.

Something to be aware of. The fake ones or knock offs aren't true hologram sights. The real ones such as the Eotech, Mepro M21 (as found on the Tavor) require good eye sight. If you have a stigmatism the reticle will be a bunch of blurred dots.

Here's a quick example for you. After working my two night shifts, it takes two days for me to be rested back up. After the night shifts my right eyesight isn't perfect. I had this tested a few months back. The right eye was less. When I look through the sights the centre isn't clear, it's a bunch of dots rather than the 1 moa dot. Strangely enough after two days of recovery, my right eyesight seems to return to normal. I check the holograph sights again and they are perfect. I've done this a number of times, so I know it's my eyesight and that it corrects itself after a few days of regular sleep with no night shifts.
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That's interesting. I wondered about that. Thanks for the tip.:)
 
Glenfilthie said:
And not by choice, mind you.

These new fangled electronic sights are an offense to the eye! There is nothing ###er than an electronic sight on a fine rifle except for maybe those spoilers you kids are putting on your pi$$ burning small cars!

With that mandatory disclaimer and curmudgeonly doggerel out of the way, one of the old farts at the gun club introduced me to what he called a civilian version of the Eotech sight. It had the television screen/plastic/modular look that cranks like me find so offensive...but once you look through it...well...it was literally love at first sight! I am either coming out of the closet or going over to the dark side, I want one of these now in the worst way. It had a red ring with a red dot in the middle and it seemed to float a couple feet out from the gun. Even with no magnification...it was sweet. Even eyes as bad as mine will work with a sight like that! And while it will ruin the rugged good looks of my standard flat top AR...I figure I can live with it.

Question...do any of you guys use the holosight on your AR with that standard front sight? Will it work with a standard AR15 rifle? Much as I love that sight I do not want to be chopping or modding my rifle. Your two cents is appreciated...
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If it makes you feel any better, red dot sights aren't really that new of a technology. They work pretty much the same way as the reflector gunsights first used in WWII fighter planes.
 
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Glenfilthie said:
Question...do any of you guys use the holosight on your AR with that standard front sight? Will it work with a standard AR15 rifle? Much as I love that sight I do not want to be chopping or modding my rifle. Your two cents is appreciated...
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Yes, at least I did. I have an Eo 512 on a flat top upper. It used to have the front sight post and I didn't consider it to be a problem. Anyway, if you co-witness with your irons, you'll have to use the front post even if it'a a flip up.
 
Thanks for the scholarly opinions, gents. I do have astigmatism, and being an old fart bifocals are in my all-to-near future.

I went down and harassed the poor buggers at P&D and they actually pulled an AR off the wall, and let me take the EOTech for a test drive. I have decided I want the EOTech, despite my astigmatism. Fortunately I don't do nightshifts or suffer much eye strain and the red dot sights seem to be just the ticket.

If I may prevail upon you guys again - the guys at P&D are selling two kinds of EOTech. One is a shortie and the other is slightly longer. The reticles are different too, one had a bullet drop compensator on it. Which would you chose? And - assuming normal vision - would you say these sights are the equal of irons? Can a guy expect minute of coyote accuracy from them, for example?

It seems to me that depending on how you line up on the gun - that reticle can float around in the screen. The parallax has to be on the sloppy side, doesn't it?
 
The long version probably uses AA batteries, while the short version probably uses CR123's (I say probably because you don't specify models). The BDC is nice if you are shooting outdoors and making longer shots, but won't really matter if you shoot within 200m. You do not need the night vision compatibility offered by many models.

I like the XPS models due to compactness, but they are more expensive. Decide if size of the optic matters to you, go from there.
 
Glenfilthie said:
If I may prevail upon you guys again - the guys at P&D are selling two kinds of EOTech. One is a shortie and the other is slightly longer. The reticles are different too, one had a bullet drop compensator on it. Which would you chose? And - assuming normal vision - would you say these sights are the equal of irons? Can a guy expect minute of coyote accuracy from them, for example?

It seems to me that depending on how you line up on the gun - that reticle can float around in the screen. The parallax has to be on the sloppy side, doesn't it?
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As CarbineOne stated, the length of the housing depends on wich type of batteries the sight uses : AA or CR123. Your choice.

An electronic sight is WAY better than plain irons! It makes aiming a piece of cake. I wouldn't choose the BDC (bullet drop compensator), because without magnification it makes no sense shooting at those distances.

The reticle seems to float on the screen and that is the point in having a HUD (head up display) like the jet fighter pilots. Regardless of shooting angle you'll hit your target as long as the dot is on target no matter where it's located on the screen. And the sight is parallax free since there's no magnification.

Check out the EOtech site
http://www.eotech-inc.com
 
Well thanks for that fellas. I have been all over their website and am zeroing in on what I want.

I appreciate all the info!
 
Epoxy7 said:
Something to be aware of. The fake ones or knock offs aren't true hologram sights. The real ones such as the Eotech, Mepro M21 (as found on the Tavor) require good eye sight. If you have a stigmatism the reticle will be a bunch of blurred dots.

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Good thing I read this. I have horrible astigmatism, but have never really noticed it when using red dots and holos.

Is there any cure for us football eyes? Are there any accessories to fix the sights, or sights that wont be affected by astigmatism?
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