Finally got to shoot my new M&P9 but have question

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Finally got to put a 100 rnds through my M&P. Got the range kit. Can't go wrong with the price ($649) and what is included in the kit. Still at the range/gun shop as have to wait for the ATT. I am right handed and the first mag were all centered at 5 meters. Subsequent mags (9) were all lower left. Anyone out there got any pointers to bring it back to center?
 
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The gun is shifting in your hand the more you shoot putting your trigger finger further in the trigger guard making you pull low left (if your a right hand)
Shoot slower and coconcentrate on the basics, a solid high grip proper sight alignment and squeezing the triger straight back and holding (follow through)
Just slow down.
 
First rule in pistol shooting basics, IMO.
Shoot slow and accurate. After thousands of rounds you'll begin to get the feel of it and progressively get faster with the same accuracy.
This is a discipline requiring lots of range time.

I also watched a new shooter and M&P. Said the gun was shooting all over the place at 7yds.
I tried and shot a a 10shot group the size of a looney.
 
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Very common with new shooters. Anticipating the recoil results in pushing the gun down when pulling trigger. As mentioned earlier, slow down and bring the trigger straight back. You probably dont notice it yourself but somebody watching can see it. Try sneaking a snap cap in a mag or have somebody do it for you. When you see the muzzle drop and no bang, the light comes on, "I didnt think I was pushing it".. Easy fix, and only trigger time will solve it. Enjoy your new M&P. Its a fine gun.
Cheers
dB
 
I'm making an assumption that this is your first pistol. My guess is, the first mag you were extremely diligent about your grip and your trigger control, and probably shot that first magazine slower and more deliberately. You then went to your subsequent magazines and shot faster or with less focus thinking you've got that gun figured out. Or, maybe the adrenaline is flowing by this point cause you're excited and you start overgripping and start jerking the trigger.

I'm of the opinion that the M&P demands good fundamentals just like the Glock does. I had the same experience when I got my M&P, low left. My problem was more due to a poor grip with my left hand rather than a problem with trigger control. Once I had taken up the slack in the trigger, putting more pressure on the trigger would cause it to tilt downward. Tightening up my grip with my left hand solved this issue for me.

The grip, sight alignment AND trigger control are all important. Check out https://canadianshooter.wordpress.com/holding-the-pistol/. Tons of good information here from which I refresh myself regularly. Pistol shooting is a skill which depreciates so practice often.
 
Thanks for all the replies. Yes it is my first pistol. I will have to slow down in the future and not anticipate the recoil. Thanks again.

Cheers
 
Sight alignment trigger squeeze and follow through. Those are the fundamentals and those are what make the difference. Your low left is a classic flinch and as noted above your trigger finger placement is likely also contributing.

Go take a training course and avoid wasting money/ammo reinforcing poor habits with minimal improvement.

Accurate shooting isn't rocket science nor is it a life long quest. Get some training and put in the effort and you'll be shooting consistent groups in only a handful of range visits.

Achieving very small groups and/or doing so at range takes time and a very consistent application of the fundamentals.

A rimfire pistol is a cheaper way to practice but is not necessary.

Tdc
 
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Thanks for all the tips and opinions. A 22 will be my next pistol. I just came back from the range and I used some of the tips (i.e. Pad of finger) and it did improve my shot.

Cheers
 
gunner065 said:
Thanks for all the tips and opinions. A 22 will be my next pistol. I just came back from the range and I used some of the tips (i.e. Pad of finger) and it did improve my shot.

Cheers
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You can practice trigger control and sight alignment at home by dry firing your pistol. Get a proper grip on the gun, look down the sights, get them properly aligned and aimed at a static object like the middle of a light switch etc. With good trigger finger control, when the trigger breaks, your sight alignment should remain on target. One RSO told me he would put a spent 9mm case on the top of his pistol up by the front sight and practice his trigger pulls. If he was jerking his trigger finger, the case would fall off. Humm, wonder if you can do this with a skinnier 22LR case.

Then again, doing this without some good guidance/training could be just ingraining more bad habbits.
 
eco said:
you will figure it out yourself after few 1000 rounds...
It's all in your grip and the finger squeeze... practice makes perfect
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You offer the verbal equivalent of "just keep trying stuff on your own and you'll magically figure it out. Somehow. Maybe...", and yet somehow somebody who supports use of proven fundamentals is leading the pack on BS opinions?? check yourself before you wreck yourself.
 
I spent a day training with my M&P40 and a guy from my club who shoots a lot and involved in ipsc. After a few mags. I was on target non stop. Best training you can get IMO one on one with someone who knows what they are doing.
 
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