FINALLY got to shoot my VZ-58

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Well, after having my VZ-58 sitting in my safe for the past few months, I finally got to take it out to the range today. What a FUN gun to shoot, and freakin' ACCURATE! I was shooting overlapping holes at 100m no problem!

I was also surpised at the amount of kick and report from the 7.62x39 rounds. Not that it was excessive, but I just didn't think it would kick as hard as it did, or be as loud as it was.

And the stupid mag limits were really driven home today... argh! I really hope the CPC gets rid of that crap! I'd love to load up a full 30 rounds and blast them off!

All in all, a great gun, accurate with milsurp ammo, easy to control (I got very quick/easy sight pictures for follow-up shots), looks awesome, and I had no misfires/jams/feed issues/extraction issues - nice and reliable.

Cheers!
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Since 99% of my blasting happens on a range, I think it would be stupid for me to own anything other than the real deal VZ58S that I have, not some pretender with an unlined bbl ;)
 
Claven2 said:
Since 99% of my blasting happens on a range, I think it would be stupid for me to own anything other than the real deal VZ58S that I have, not some pretender with an unlined bbl ;)
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Since both the CZ858 and VZ58 that you have are pretenders to the real deal and since a good chunk of my blasting isn't done at the range because most of my guns are non-restricted means that I'll take a few extra inches any time.

A little bit of a rabbit trail, but I'd like to blame the government for making a board mostly of guys where people boast about having a few inches less then everyone else. Sad...
 
This is my delima, I want to get a 58 or an 858 but since 100% of my shooting is done at the range what does it matter?

I also cant seem to find any 858's for sale and marstar says they have the 58 in stock.
 
What Claven means is that the VZ-58S bears 100% resemblance to the original military 'real deal' rifle because it has the 'correct' barrel length. The only two major differences between the VZ-58S and the original rifle is the VZ-58S does not go full-auto and the magazines are limited to 30 rounds.

The dispute is really a non-starter: on one hand you have the milsurp folks saying they want a rifle that is as close as legally obtainable to the original military issue rifle, while on the other hand you have people who don't care how 'correct' it looks because toting it along on hunting/outdoor excursions is more important.

Buy what you want. One man's trash is another man's treasure. We don't sell the CZ-858-2 (I hope I have the nomenclature right) so I can't give an opinion. Do I like my VZ-58S? Very much so (and I'm not saying that because Marstar sells them: they are nicely balanced and do shoot quite well). I'll use it on the range and my Yugo SKS when I hit the 'back forty' at a friend's place and need something non-restricted to take along.

Again, just because I share Claven's point of view does not mean "I'm right and you're wrong." I wanted my VZ as a "Cold War East Bloc service rifle" and the 'semi-auto only' VZ-58S is as close as I'm going to get that is still OK to bring to the range. That's different from wanting a similar rifle to hunt with.

Thanks for the detailed review!

- Peter
 
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I bought a VZ58 from Marstar. I was one of the guys on the waiting list forever, drooling over them when they came out. I love mine and would buy another one happily. Great fun, accurate (for irons....), looks great, pisses off Captain Hunting Rifle. what more could you want?

Tho only ting I am wanting is a quad rail hand guard and an eotech mount. Then it would be perfect!
 
I like the idea of non restricted as well, I was wondering could a person remove the front sight and set it back 3 inches or so, then drill out a flash suppressor, and tap the barrell to mount the (now fake) flash suppressor over the bbl? That would then make it closer to the original and still be non restricted.
 
Bill,

Sadly they've already thought of that and are one step ahead of you. The barrel length is the measurement of the one piece rifled section thereof (including chamber) according to the law. That's why flash suppressors don't count.

In the 'old days' people were welding little extensions (essentially a piece of pipe of equivalent diameter to the outer dimensions of the barrel) onto the ends of M1 Carbine barrels to make them long enough to be non-restricted. That's why they changed the law.

Hope this helps,

- Peter
 
Peter said:
Bill,

Sadly they've already thought of that and are one step ahead of you. The barrel length is the measurement of the one piece rifled section thereof (including chamber) according to the law. That's why flash suppressors don't count.

In the 'old days' people were welding little extensions (essentially a piece of pipe of equivalent diameter to the outer dimensions of the barrel) onto the ends of M1 Carbine barrels to make them long enough to be non-restricted. That's why they changed the law.

Hope this helps,

- Peter
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You must have read my post backwards, I want to takle a currently non restricted and mount the suppressor over the bbl instead of on the end, this way it would look like a restricted but still be non restricted. The suppressor would then of course be useless.
 
bill c68 said:
You must have read my post backwards, I want to takle a currently non restricted and mount the suppressor over the bbl instead of on the end, this way it would look like a restricted but still be non restricted. The suppressor would then of course be useless.
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Yep, as long as that section remains rifled, you're good to go. You can even drill ports into the barrel to match up with the ports on the FH. Porting does not constitute a reduction in barrel length and then at least you'd have the brake effect.
 
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