Finally - I got a response from the govt as to why AR15s are restricted!

[nntw]

Would like first hand info, please, not opinions.

There are many posts that say we should write to the govt to have the classification of the AR15 and its variants made non-restricted.

Who has written to their MP, or to Mr Toews, etc, and what responses have you got? Are they just 'taking it under advisement', have they provided reasons WHY these firearms are restricted, what?

Thanks, and as mentioned, am curious about ACTUAL FEEDBACK, not "yeah, it shouldn't be restricted, we need to do something" posts.

 

[skoal]

They have no legimate reason,simple fact the military uses them so their "big scary assualt rifles" that the ordinary person has no business having.

 

[tiriaq]

When all the other paramilitary rifles were being prohibited, the AR was on the prohibition list as well. It was the intent of the gov't. to prohibit any and all such firearms.
The DCRA made the case that the AR was used for competitive target shooting; so it was restricted, not prohibited. It barely escaped prohibition.

Initially, of course, the AR was just another rifle.

 

[nntw]

When all the other paramilitary rifles were being prohibited, the AR was on the prohibition list as well. It was the intent of the gov't. to prohibit any and all such firearms.
The DCRA made the case that the AR was used for competitive target shooting; so it was restricted, not prohibited. It barely escaped prohibition.

Initially, of course, the AR was just another rifle.

So do we have anything in writing- lately- as to why it's restricted? Again, I'm curious if the government has explained its position to anyone who is a member of this forum.

 

[tiriaq]

Why would there be any need for anything in writing - lately?
The deed was done years ago.
The current government had nothing to do with the classification.
The classification could only be reveresed by legislation.
Instead of wasting the Gov't's time asking why a previous gov't did something, it would make more sense to approach the Gov't about changing things.

 

[PARKINGLOT]

Because it's an "evil black tactical assault machine gun"

Duh.

 

[nntw]

Why would there be any need for anything in writing - lately?
The deed was done years ago.
The current government had nothing to do with the classification.
The classification could only be reveresed by legislation.
Instead of wasting the Gov't's time asking why a previous gov't did something, it would make more sense to approach the Gov't about changing things.

To understand what the current government's thinking and position is on the issue NOW.

Not asking why the previous govt did it- asking what the current government says about it now.

It would be easier to make an argument for changing the category if we understood what the current government considers to be the reasons for the category of firearms to be restricted.


So, to get back to my original question, has anyone written a letter, etc, about de-resticting (if that's a word) the AR15, and got a response? If so, would you share that response?

 

[tiriaq]

Or, just do it yourself and report back.....

The Gov't has stated that it does not intend to change the current classification system.

 

[nntw]

Or, just do it yourself and report back.....

The Gov't has stated that it does not intend to change the current classification system.

Thank you- how and when did they indicate that? Since in a roundabout way this is addressing my original question.

And yes, when I get a response, I will share that. I was under the impression that firearms owners claim to want to work together to effect change, and am trying to foster that by being 'on the same page' with other concerned owners.

 

[Steiner]

No real legitimate reason they banned it. Same reason they banned the Benelli Spas 12g shotgun used by Arnold in The Terminator movie. Scary looking and black.

 

[chemo]

No real legitimate reason they banned it. Same reason they banned the Benelli Spas 12g shotgun used by Arnold in The Terminator movie. Scary looking and black.

-AR15 are not banned, they are just restricted
-You are right the SPAS-12 is a prohibited weapon, but they're made by Franchi, not Benelli...

 

[nntw]

Thanks for posters' interest and comments.

Am still looking for some kind of statement from the current govt as to why AR 15's are restricted (whoops-originally wrote banned). Anybody?

(as an aside, I guess Winchester 1887 and Norinco knockoffs should be banned too, keep them out of the hands of cyborgs from the future.... )

 

[twig_40]

The government has never had stated "why" they restricted it. I don't expect you will find anything on paper. There are lots of theories but I have never seen anything on paper. I agree with the previous posters, why worry about why, just work on getting it changed.

 

[nntw]

...I agree with the previous posters, why worry about why, just work on getting it changed.

Well, I'll get right on that....

Reading a lot of posts from people agreeing it shouldn't be restricted.... maybe not from anyone who's actually tried to do something about it.

Still interested to get the first hand experience of someone who HAS contacted the government, whether their MP or Mr Toews, and received a response.

 

[Ebola]

Thanks for posters' interest and comments.

Am still looking for some kind of statement from the current govt as to why AR 15's are restricted (whoops-originally wrote banned). Anybody?

(as an aside, I guess Winchester 1887 and Norinco knockoffs should be banned too, keep them out of the hands of cyborgs from the future.... )

AR15's are restricted because unknowing and fearfull politicians create law based on emotions and not logic and fact like they should. AR15's are restricted because government idiots are afraid. There is no "stated" government reason why written on paper or anywhere else. Fear and stupidity is the best answer your going to get.

 

[t-star]

you've got to remember that there's a lot of krap left over from the 40+ years of LIBERAL government and it won't all be done in one day- look at how the prohib list was passed by oic and has to be undone by VOTE IN PARLIAMENT- the oic was actually MEANT to take care of everyday business so as not to tie up parliament with menial matters-stuff that does not require a vote
the way i see it , we have 2 fronts- 1) repeal c-68 entirely, and 2)repeal the oic that made a lot of our guns prohibs- they are NOT the same thing, much in the same way as the lgr has been repealed, but now the cfos are requiring the dealers/merchants to keep ledgers
oh, and btw, we were SUPPOSED to get UNPINNED mags so we could shoot competition , but the cfo's did a cute little end-run around that by refusing to issue the special atts required

 

[nntw]

So, who here has contacted the govt/their MP and asked that the law be changed? And what answer did you get?

 

[AlexF]

So, who here has contacted the govt/their MP and asked that the law be changed? And what answer did you get?

I've visited my MP (NDP) twice this year already and although he agrees that hunter and competitive shooters should be allowed to use firearms, he thinks that all other use of firearms should be prohibited and that all firearms and ammo should be locked up in shooting/hunter and anglers gun vault!

By the way, he's a great guy but I don't expect him to vote for an law which would make the AR15 non-restricted and we need a global approach to the gun control issue.

In the meantime, I'll pay my NFA and CSSA dues and will keep on voting Conservative!

Alex

 

[t-star]

I've visited my MP (NDP) twice this year already and although he agrees that hunter and competitive shooters should be allowed to use firearms, he thinks that all other use of firearms should be prohibited and that all firearms and ammo should be locked up in shooting/hunter and anglers gun vault!

By the way, he's a great guy but I don't expect him to vote for an law which would make the AR15 non-restricted and we need a global approach to the gun control issue.

In the meantime, I'll pay my NFA and CSSA dues and will keep on voting Conservative!

Alex

yea, but since you're dealing with a quebec mp, you have to muddy the question as much as possible, then re-word it so he THINKS he's voting FOR prohibiting ALL OTHER FORMS OF THE SPORT when he's really voting against it- ie reverse

 

[nntw]

I've visited my MP (NDP) twice this year already and although he agrees that hunter and competitive shooters should be allowed to use firearms, he thinks that all other use of firearms should be prohibited and that all firearms and ammo should be locked up in shooting/hunter and anglers gun vault!

By the way, he's a great guy but I don't expect him to vote for an law which would make the AR15 non-restricted and we need a global approach to the gun control issue.

In the meantime, I'll pay my NFA and CSSA dues and will keep on voting Conservative!

Alex

THANK YOU!!! A response from someone who's actually talked to their MP about firearms!!!

I agree theat the Conservatives did away with the LGR.... I'm not necessarily seeing much that suggests that they're currently that interested/motivated in changing other firearms laws, as other posters have pointed out.