Finally wrote a proper article on 1,000 yarding and general LR Garand / M14 shooting

Ardent

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Finally got to writing the article for the site on long reaches with the excellent M1 / M14 sights, hope you enjoy.

http://www.morrisonarms.com/2013/11/reaching-out-the-old-fashioned-way-iron-sights-to-1000-yards/

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Nice range , looking for something like that in NW BC, want to stretch my Garand out and compare it to my Springfield M1A standard.
Do you know where a guy can get some of those match loads?
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I have been using Hornady 168gr BTHP. Finding safe old logging blocks getting harder to do!
Have also come across these...
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Tried them once they work well, I consider them a collectors item so I don't waste them !
 
When I had my Garand and M14 I shot both of them out to 1000 yds. The sights on those rifles are very good but it is difficult with old eyes. My M14 was scoped which really helped a lot. The target we used for the M1 was a white painted 55 gal drum which is only 4' x 2'. These rifles were definitely built properly and built to last. They are loads of fun to shoot.
 
That's a really inspiring article, which makes me want to find some 500-1000 yard clearings in the bush to try this out with the postal match target or figure 11 on some form of background.

Even with a spotting scope I'd imagine that it's still too far to tell where things landed on that wooden board. Minus an ATV I'd imagine that it would take quite some time to check targets and shoot through even a box of ammo! Perhaps that would be best when shooting on the Crown Land that I'm familiar with, since too much continuous fire that would sound more like a gun club would probably draw unwanted attention from the cottagers who may be as close as 1.5km away.

Until I find some good ammo or reload for a Garand, this would be the best way to maximize fun with the M305.
 
Kevin M. said:
Few realize how easy it is with good irons to reach way out there.
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That's the truth, it actually isn't even hard to hit a sillouette at 1,000, which is amusing as many see it as a "sniper shot". Unknown exact range in Mogadishu or Falluja? Sure that's gotta be tough, but for us lying on a range, pretty darn easy with a little practice.
 
Beadwindow said:
That's a really inspiring article, which makes me want to find some 500-1000 yard clearings in the bush to try this out with the postal match target or figure 11 on some form of background.

Even with a spotting scope I'd imagine that it's still too far to tell where things landed on that wooden board. Minus an ATV I'd imagine that it would take quite some time to check targets and shoot through even a box of ammo! Perhaps that would be best when shooting on the Crown Land that I'm familiar with, since too much continuous fire that would sound more like a gun club would probably draw unwanted attention from the cottagers who may be as close as 1.5km away.

Until I find some good ammo or reload for a Garand, this would be the best way to maximize fun with the M305.
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It certainly takes awhile, we use a truck to go back and forth.
 
Ardent said:
That's the truth, it actually isn't even hard to hit a sillouette at 1,000, which is amusing as many see it as a "sniper shot". Unknown exact range in Mogadishu or Falluja? Sure that's gotta be tough, but for us lying on a range, pretty darn easy with a little practice.
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Trickiest part of shooting irons to this distance is spotting. Have a good spotter watching for you through optics, or be prepared to do some walking or driving to find hits and make adjustments.

Windage is a tough call for these rifles at this distance if you have varying wind speeds, but elevation is usually pretty darn close on those sights depending on you load.

I want to get out to long range again with my M1, last time was at 1km at a car door, to good success once my shooting buddy and I got all dialled in.... that took the longest, it was winter and we had to walk back and forth in snowshoes, as we did not have other transport that could reach the target at the time.

It was very cool to see the low angle hits in the snow in front of the target in groups of 8 as we dialled in... big long 30' slashes in the snow about 4" wide from the bullets passing through it.
 
I've done 500m with the M305 and garand rear sights, and it was exhilarating to see the target come up with a decent hit on the fig.11 for the first time. That was with plain old 146gr (I think it's 146gr) S&B ammo, not sure if better ammo would have mattered with my developing skills! :)

Can't imagine 1000m, but would love to try someday.
 
Cool article Ardent, makes me want to order the iron sights for my AI rifle. Back when I had an NM M1A I used to shoot it out to 800m. Where I live now its hard to find a spot that exceeds 600m.
 
"...Hornady 168gr BTHP..." Good out to 600ish. Use a 175 grain match bullet past there. Same powder. IMR4064 gives consistent accuracy. And an F class, 1,000 yard black, is 60" diameter with a 10" bull. Tiny wee thing, so it is.
 
As another option 155's will be easy on the Garand and M14, and will fly every bit as well as the 175s due to leaving faster. The Palma 155's sport some incredible ballistic coefficients, I find the Sierra 168 fine to 800, and it falls off sharply from there. Never even got one on the 1,000 yard board.
 
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