Finn M28 "SY" marked receiver - good to shoot 762x54r?
- Thread starter Irons78
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virtually every Finn mosin was made to be able to shoot the comming 150gn light russian ball. The real question is whether the gun was reamed to accept D166 Finnish heavy ball. I doubt you will shoot D166 anyhow though. Few do.
PinkyPlinker
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I had him send me pics. No D stamp but you should be fine with light ball, which is most of what is available. It's a decent example, and they don't come up often.
The 7.62X53 & 7.62X54 are basically the same thing.
I'll ask you a question: Do you think the Finnish soldiers would have thought twice about shooting 54 through their 53s if they weren't basically the same? I guarantee, the Finnish rifles collectively fored hundreds of thousands if not millions of rounds of captured Soviet ammo to supplement their own.
I've read a theory that the 53 was created by Finland as a result of peace treaty conditions from either the Civil War or the Winter War that Finland would not produce rifles or ammo in 7.62X54R. The Finns were not as stupid as Stalin would like to believe. Make the cartridge 1mm shorter, re-stamp rifles to indicate only accepting 53 and the treaty conditions were met, with zero net effect on Finland's ability to produce rifles that could use Soviet parts and ammo to be used against the invaders.
I'll ask you a question: Do you think the Finnish soldiers would have thought twice about shooting 54 through their 53s if they weren't basically the same? I guarantee, the Finnish rifles collectively fored hundreds of thousands if not millions of rounds of captured Soviet ammo to supplement their own.
I've read a theory that the 53 was created by Finland as a result of peace treaty conditions from either the Civil War or the Winter War that Finland would not produce rifles or ammo in 7.62X54R. The Finns were not as stupid as Stalin would like to believe. Make the cartridge 1mm shorter, re-stamp rifles to indicate only accepting 53 and the treaty conditions were met, with zero net effect on Finland's ability to produce rifles that could use Soviet parts and ammo to be used against the invaders.
gewehr76
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Russians were masters of adopting ammo and firearms in weird dimensions and calibers that no one else can use. In case some other hostile army captured ammo and turned against them. Here some examples.
7.62x38r can not be shot in anything else but m1895, however if need be 7.5 Swedish/Swiss, even 8mm French can be fired from 7.62 nagant. But not the other way around.
Same with 9mm and 9x18 mak.
7,62x54 and x53 is the same ammo just as 7.63x25 and 7.62x25
One story I heard is that Soviet partizans were in need of 7,62x54, however during fighting all they had captured from Germans is lots of 8mm.
So in the contact with stavka they were sent by parachute a press that would by just simple whack of the hammer transform 8mm in to 7.62x54R
7.62x38r can not be shot in anything else but m1895, however if need be 7.5 Swedish/Swiss, even 8mm French can be fired from 7.62 nagant. But not the other way around.
Same with 9mm and 9x18 mak.
7,62x54 and x53 is the same ammo just as 7.63x25 and 7.62x25
One story I heard is that Soviet partizans were in need of 7,62x54, however during fighting all they had captured from Germans is lots of 8mm.
So in the contact with stavka they were sent by parachute a press that would by just simple whack of the hammer transform 8mm in to 7.62x54R
Blastattack
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They are the same dimensionally, but they are not the same. They are certainly not interchangeable. The Russian round will likely damage guns designed for the German round.
