Finnish Mosins value ?

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Hi All,
Need some education here about current prices for Finnish Mosins :-s
A fair value for most models would be greatly appreciated.
I see a few from time to time on the EE but have no clue if prices are fair or not
Thanks All
Cheers
 
There are many models of Finn Mosins, and then there are Finn capture Mosins. Wide ranges of prices from capture 91-30s at the low end to Finn M39s towards the top.
If you see one and it sells quickly, consider that the going rate.
 
This is a rough guideline of what I would be satisfied to pay for one without feeling like I was stealing it. This is assuming a matching bolt, good bore and decent stock:

Captured 91/30 - $400
Captured Dragoon/Cossack - $600
M30 - $450-$500 (more for high wall receiver)
M91 - depending on maker/year $400-$550 a lot more if it retains a pre 1908 rear sight.
M24 - $550
P series - $550
M27 - $850
M28 - $1500
M28/30 - $1500
M39 - $1100-1600 (depending on variation)
Captured M38 - $2000 plus
Captured M44 $2000 plus
Finnish snipers, rimfire trainers, Winchester 95s and cavalry carbines are a different category, assume several thousand if authentic.
 
I would agree with BlackPowderBurner's numbers, in general, but would also point out that, even with Finn rifles, originality should be considered. For example, a post war refurbished M39 should be worth less than one that's in it's original stock and hasn't been re-blued. Also, Finn capture 91/30's range from virtually totally original (as built in the Soviet Union)to kind of sad mixmasters. An original, matching 91/30 should be worth more than $500.00. Finn M91's are generally pretty much completely altered by the Finns but one with substantial originality could easily get $1000.00 plus. M24's ("Lotta Rifles") may be the biggest bargain out there. I have yet to pay more than $550.00 for one which is really surprising given how scarce and interesting they are. Personally I think the M28 and M28/30 prices make sense, and reflect scarcity, but M39 prices seem to be somewhat driven by hype as they're hardly scarce. Their price also jumped when the large quantities of imports became available- seems a bit backwards? I only have one and payed about $600 for it just before large numbers of them started showing up in the market. As with anything, look hard at the individual rifle you're considering buying and don't be totally driven by average numbers. If you're trying to build a Finn collection and a good P-27 comes along at $750.00 keep in mind that you may only see one or two per year up for sale.

milsurpo
 
Jonathanchretien said:
And how much would a 1927 stepped barrel tikka m91 be worth. I have one and have absolutely no idea wath it is worth.
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That's one of the types that don't seem to attract big $. I recently bought one for around $550.00. I believe you showed a couple of photos of this one in another thread. Try to post some additional photos. Is the bolt matching? Looks like a nice example.

milsurpo
 
Remember that the Finns didn't manufacture their own M-N rifles. They were either purchased or captured. Be diligent with your research. Don't doodle around trying to decide, get busy and research, then buy it if it seems right. Even if it isn't the rarest rifle in the universe, you will have a really neat example of recycling and hard-times history in your possession.

Most of you know my story of the SAT barrel M91. The fact that the old rifles may be a mixture of parts from other rifles doesn't mean they are worthless. I have around 9 or 10 M91's, one of which sports a French receiver. The others are a glorious jumble of parts, all pretty much ready to roll.

Oh, and did I mention: DO YOUR RESEARCH. :)
 
I have a M91 that was rebarrelled by the Finns in 1942. She’s VERY accurate and has the lightest trigger pull of any rifle I’ve fired (Usually my first shot is a flier, because I forget how sensitive the trigger is, lol).
 
Jonathanchretien said:
So standard m91 would bring 550 and the 1927 stepped barrel wich is rate 9/10 on rarety chart from 7.62x54r.net would bring exactly the same?
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You have to keep in mind that the Finn rifle collecting community (hence, demand) in Canada is much smaller than in the US. If you go to sell it it would certainly be worth trying to get $700 or even more for it. It'll boil down to just what condition it's in and who's looking for one at that precise moment. That rarity chart you refer to is useful but it doesn't necessarily tell you that much about market value in Canada.

milsurpo
 
milsurpo said:
You have to keep in mind that the Finn rifle collecting community (hence, demand) in Canada is much smaller than in the US. If you go to sell it it would certainly be worth trying to get $700 or even more for it. It'll boil down to just what condition it's in and who's looking for one at that precise moment. That rarity chart you refer to is useful but it doesn't necessarily tell you that much about market value in Canada.

milsurpo
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Thank you. Tought it would worth more. Still a Nice piece of hystory. I will hold on to this one
 
^^Well stated. Some Canadian milsurp people aren't necessarily interested in Mosin Nagant collecting. Not everybody is interested in M1 Garands, or Lee Enfields or...well, you get the idea. There are likely at least ten times the number of people interested in Mosin Nagants in the US.

There are some oddballs floating around, for sure.
 
I sold off most of my Nagants a few years back but I am still hanging on my M24 with the stepped SIG barrel.

I am surprised that they are so under appreciated, but then I only paid $150 for it :)
 
BlackPowderBurner said:
This is a rough guideline of what I would be satisfied to pay for one without feeling like I was stealing it. This is assuming a matching bolt, good bore and decent stock:

Captured 91/30 - $400
Captured Dragoon/Cossack - $600
M30 - $450-$500 (more for high wall receiver)
M91 - depending on maker/year $400-$550 a lot more if it retains a pre 1908 rear sight.
M24 - $550
P series - $550
M27 - $850
M28 - $1500
M28/30 - $1500
M39 - $1100-1600 (depending on variation)
Captured M38 - $2000 plus
Captured M44 $2000 plus
Finnish snipers, rimfire trainers, Winchester 95s and cavalry carbines are a different category, assume several thousand if authentic.
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I think you have some of those values set way too low - in particular matching captured 91/30, captured dragoons and cossack rifles, M24 and P series. For example, I have not seen a decent dragoon (still in dragoon trim) in Canada for under $1000 in at least 10 years now.
 
Great thread folks. I have one i am trying to separate from one of the guys in my Milsurp circle. I will use this info to my advantage lol. Will post pics once it has been liberated.
 
Claven2 said:
I think you have some of those values set way too low - in particular matching captured 91/30, captured dragoons and cossack rifles, M24 and P series. For example, I have not seen a decent dragoon (still in dragoon trim) in Canada for under $1000 in at least 10 years now.
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I listed the captured 91/30 as bolt matching only. I agree that a completely original rifle with good cartouches etc should command a significant premium. You may be right on the dragoon and cossack, unfortunately they don't come up enough on the market to really say for sure. I have never seen at a gun show an M24 or P series command a premium (which they should) over a bog standard captured M91. I have only seen that price difference on the EE where the market is targeted. As I said in the post, it's just a rough guideline based on my own experience in the markets available to me.
 
Great thread folks. I have one i am trying to separate from one of the guys in my Milsurp circle. I will use this info to my advantage lol. Will post pics once it has been liberated.
 
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