Finnish Sako M-39 Straight Stock

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Hello All,

I am doing some research into this rifle, as I own one. So far, I have most of the information... however, a couple sources are in conflict as to a few details:

Firstly, how many of these straight stocks were manufactured? I have come across references of 6000 and 10,000. I know, shoot me now for not quoting references, but one of the sources was mosinnagant.net if I recall. I understand that production started in 1940 at SAKO, where they utilized the straight stock wood that they had in stock, before switching over to the "more ergonomic" pistol grip. As well, it seems it was an order from the top to change over, for some reason or another (Civil Guard vs. Army bureaucratic issues I believe). How many were produced in 1940 and 1941? I understood that SAKO started a new production run in 1941 starting from 20,000 serial number. My rifle is in the first 1500 off the line in that case. (213**) I have also read that in 1940, the rifles were made (or barrels and parts made ready to be mated to recievers I should say) but not produced to issued until 1941. Can anyone shed light on this?

Secondly, what is the general value of one of these rifles, as considered by you, my fellow collectors? Other than the straight stock, what other unique features are considered to add value?

Let's get the discussion rolling here!

Yours,
Drachenblut
 
I would start by reading here:
h t t p://www.milsurps.com/content.php?r=208-1941-M39-Finnish-Mosin-Nagant-(Mfg-by-Sako-straight-stock-variant)
 
Thank you Claven. I had a read through, and from what I can now ascertain, thanks to your help and some further research, is:
My rifle is a proper, Finn Matching Sako Straight Stock, 1941 manufacture, within the proper serial range, with the proper pine-tar composition finish, and matching site blade to site base. She is a beautiful rifle, and one of the 6200 that were produced in that special straight stock run. A unique feature, she had some minor damage on one side of the stock that has been filled in with a type of pine tar rosin glue of some sort. Possibly a Continuation War repair?

Here are a couple pictures of my SAKO, named Annah

An overall shot:

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Serial Number

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A picture of the stock branding:

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Tula 1915 Reciever Tang

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Proper War Time Finger Jointing:

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The repaired damage

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Cheers,
Drachenblut
 
Thank you Arty! Nice to see someone else likes Annah. She's one of those ladies who enjoys being oogled. Hmm, still wondering about value. However, she's a good shooter, her bore is 7 out of 10, dark but strong rifling and she can hit decent groups out to 100 yrds.
 
I have Annah's brother or sister. Didn't have time to feed it proper ammo so it sits there.
It's got beautiful wood and a really clean and shiny barrel, I'm pretty sure it will shoot nice and tight once I get on with my reloading this winter.
I'll see if I can take a few pics tomorrow to show you.
BTW, my next wish is to find a really clean pistol-gripped M-39 to go along with this one.
PP.
 
If one was looking to sell Arty, one would certainly like the opinion of value from a good reputable source... perhaps the one who was interested... ;)

PP, I would love to see pictures of her sister rifle (all rifles are ladies you know, until 1960, then they start becoming more masculine, and loosing that feminine flair... something called "plastic", you might have heard of it? :)
 
Annah's sister pics

Ok guys, here are some pics of Annah's little sister. Her only blemish is the bolt body that doesn't match. :(
Too bad I didn't have time to do a better lighting and background job (I even had to cut out the full rifle view because the background was so cluttered).
Have fun!
PP.


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sergey96 said:
Just for me it is Finish captured Russian Mosin. What was changed in it by Fins?
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Depending on the model, there can be a barrel change or a simple counterbore, a different front sight, usually front blade (but not all the time), rear sight bases renumbered (metric) on the right with crossed-off arshins numerals on the left, another notch added at the back of the sight base and many other small variations.
Most of the rifles have a new actic birch (more stable) two-piece stock or, at least, have a reworked bedding with small brass shims under the receiver and some subtle changes to the trigger and sear.
Most of the Finn rifles have wire hangers for the sling instead of the "dog collar" design.
Because of these changes, most of the Finn rifles also shoot better than their regular Russian troop-issued counterparts.
BUT, in the M-39 case, almost everything is Finn-produced save the receiver, bolt and some small parts.
PP.
 
Brag, brag...

In case you doubt, here's what an exceptional Finn Mosin can do.
Pic of a five shot 100 meter grouping made at the bench with one of my best Tikka-barreled M-91.
Winchester fireformed brass, neck-sized only, 174 gr. FMJBT Hornady bullets #3131, 54gr. of Hodgdon's H-4831SC (lot 3949), Winchester LRP primers.
Six o'clock aim, no wind at all and... no coffee ;)
Sure, military loads are far from this but it illustrates well what this Finn fine-tuning was all about.
PP. :)

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Drachenblut said:
Very nice. I will have to post my own range report some day of Annah. Very nice PP! I like her sister rifle.
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Annah's sister has all the load researching to do yet. But I have hoarded enough Norma brass to make it easier.
Now that I recall better, that brass for the M-91 was probably once-fired Prvi Partizan not Winchester because I didn't have enough of it. I can't wait to shoot that M-39 for precision.
More to come!
PP. :)
 
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