Firearms Licence Renewal Nightmare

Dustin

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My current licence expires on Saturday, so I dutifully send in my firearms licence renewal on time, and I check for updates periodically. I am last told it's at the CFO waiting final approval. I phone there today to find out where it is, and they won't issue it because I am not a gun club member! Needless to say, I'm irate about this. So I phone up my MP and am now waiting for a call back...

Alberta CFO BTW
 
Same thing happened to me. It took phone calls for 2 1/2 months, only to find out that my renewal had been shelved at the AB CFO because I did not include a copy of my club membership. They did not ask for it, nor did they contact me to say that they required it. My license expired in the meantime, but was issued along with my ATT the day after I faxed in the copy of my range card.

Technically, my license was expired for 5 weeks during this, but they did not revoke any of my registrations. This all occured this fall.
 
There is no requirement, in any law, for a gun club membership. It would certainly be a very difficult argument for the CFO to make in court in relation to long guns.

You should request that the CFO comply with s. 72 of the Firearms Act and provide you with a written refusal stating the reason.

Let us know the result so we can help.
 
I know there is no legal requirement. That's why I'm not just taking collector's status and buckling.

Wait a second.

What are we talking about here, PAL or RPAL? I've never heard of a CFO wanting proof of club membership just for non-restricteds.
 
I renewed my RPAL this fall in BC and ran into the same thing. I kept checking as I sent my application in a little late, however they did receive it prior to it expiring.

They wanted me to either provide a gun club membership or fill out a fairly lengthy questionnaire to claim collector status. They also required me to fill out a Long Term ATT application.

I just joined the gun club as I needed to anyway and they sent me a long term att valid for 5 years.

On another note, I was at the gun club today and the people who manage it told me that rumor is they are going to be redefining the reasons for owning restricted firearms. Apparently "plinking" is no longer going to be a valid reason for being allowed to acquire a restricted weapon or to obtain an ATT. Rumor is that we are going to have to join the IPSC or another recognized sport to continue to own and have ATTs.

Anyone else hear this?
 
I do plan on joining a club, but not until the new year when I'm settled into a new place, I'm not spending $x on a membership until I know I can make use of it and come out to work bees and such...
 
They like to renew both your LTATT and pal at same time.

Everyone usualy gets an LTATT when they get there first handgun. This is usually after you've had your RPAL for a bit.

Your LTATT is goot for five years or until you need to renew your licence. So the licence renewal happens first. So your are renewing your LTATT at the same time even if you don't know it.

sumthin like that maybe.
 
how many people did the restricted test and do not own any restricted guns.if they go to renew why would they need to prove that they belong to a club
 
Wait a second.

:DWhat are we talking about here, PAL or RPAL? I've never heard of a CFO wanting proof of club membership just for non-restricteds.

It's another CFO "roll your own" law.

The CFOs are asking for proof of club membership before restricted & 12-6 licenses are granted/renewed.

The CFOs don't care what that pesky little inconvenience called the "Firearms Act" says when they're creating home made law.

Be careful with 12-6 because if you let your PAL expire......any grandfathered priveleges go bye bye and you'll probably get an notice with your PAL renewal (minus your 12-6 priveleges) requiring you to surrender or otherwise legally dispose of your prohib handguns within 30 days.

Yank your heads out of the sand & open your baby blues wide Canadian GUNNUTZ..........there's a cultural genocide in progress & we're the ones being genocided!!!

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Well, all I have to say is the best of luck to you...

I truly hope that people would start taking the CFO offices to Court and suing the executive side of government for abusive application of the law. Legally speaking, the government administration has no right to modify a law that was voted in by elected individuals in a democratic society (in our case, the Parliament); all they are entitled to do is to apply it. Sometimes strictly and to the letter (if they choose to), but they cannot go overboard and create their own set of extra rules - unless that discretionary power it is expressly specified in the law. Otherwise, it goes against the Canadian democracy and our Constitution.

On that note, a Court judgment on that issue would certainly get them thinking. It would certainly be very interesting to see. Although an expensive procedure, each and every citizen has the right to contest government decisions or application of the law - a Charter defense would definitely be appropriate in this case too (discrimination + unjustified profiling against certain groups of society). A Charter judgment in our favor would put CFOs back in their place for good, nation-wide (well, at least up until the Firearms Act is modified & rendered more strict).
 
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WOW, glad I found this thread! I sent my renewal in over six weeks ago and was wondering where my new RPAL was. Guess I'll have to make some calls. I still have 30 days before mine expires but I don't wanna wait til it does.
 
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