Firearms Registration in Nazi Germany

[Desert_Fox]

I decided to scan and post this picture I took in Germany back in 2003.

It was taken on Prinz Albrecht Strasse at an exhibit of the excavated ruins of the old Gestapo (Geheime Staatspolizei) headquarters in Berlin.

In the following photos, you will notice a German Citizen registering his hunting/sporting rifle (some sort of Mauser by the looks of it) with the SS Security Service, the SD (Sicherheitsdienst).

Here is the original photo that I took:

Here is a close up of the actual photo (split into 4 large pictures for the exhibit):

I find it interesting how the Anti Freedom/Firearms folks like to point out that all the civilized nations should have "Gun Control".... just like the murderous Nazis.


"I came to Ottawa with the firm belief that the only people in this country who should have guns are police officers and soldiers."
— Allan Rock, Canada's Minister of Justice


"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so. Indeed I would go so far as to say that the underdog is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order."
— Adolf Hitler, April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942.

“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA — ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the state.”
- Heinrich Himmler.

 

[PerversPépère]

Just before the nazi troops invaded France's south part, which was still considered a"demilitarized zone" under Vichy's jurisdiction, one of my grandfather's contacts told him a general confiscation of all the hunting firearms was pending.
And he gave him the advice to log a simple ad on the sell/buy pages of the regional newspaper, putting his shotguns and other hunting rifles "up for sale" then go and make a secure cache for them.
My grandfather lost no time and fashioned a sturdy wooden box (he was a carpenter, stair and cabinet maker), put all his greased and wrapped firearms in it then sealed the works in a lead sheet, soldered at the seams.
Then he went and buried the chest under the hotel's septic tank overflow .
When the german officials asked him if he still had any "weapons" (funny, they knew him and everyone in the place), he told them that his health didn't allow him to roam the mountains with his dogs anymore and that he had sold his firearms some months ago to a man from Lourdes and showed the newspaper ad as proof. They bought his story.

Today, that simple plan would not work, thanks to our Great National Registry.
I guess Nazis would love such a registry...
PP.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Just before the election where Paul Martin was defeated by Harper, Martin said he was going to ban all handguns.

Handgun sales went through the roof in the weeks to follow. The Gun Dealers were very happy with the sales and also extremely happy saying goodbye to the Liberal Government!

 

[MusicianShooter]

Just before the election where Paul Martin was defeated by Harper, Martin said he was going to ban all handguns.

Before Martin made that announcement, I was planning to get a .22 revolver.
After the announcement, I did... and got a CZ 75 in 9mm just to spite him.

 

[morph18]

Typical Nazi bashing as usual...

Hate to break it to you, but it was the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Government bringing this kind of registration in. Not Hitler. Not the Nazis.

In fact Hitler loosened many laws that the Weimar Government adopted. 1938 German Weapon Act, look it up. You want to talk about gun control in Germany, how about the gun control that the allies imposed in 1945?

Hitler abolished long gun registry in Germany.

Sorry?

 

[JasonS]

Typical Nazi bashing as usual...

Hate to break it to you, but it was the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Government bringing this kind of registration in. Not Hitler. Not the Nazis.

In fact Hitler loosened many laws that the Weimar Government adopted. 1938 German Weapon Act, look it up. You want to talk about gun control in Germany, how about the gun control that the allies imposed in 1945?

Hitler abolished long gun registry in Germany.

Sorry?

Except if you were a Jew, you neglected to mention. And of course the occupying Allies needed strict gun laws for the Germans. There were still radical nut jobs running around that had to be weeded out. And considering the world was still coming to grips with the reality of "The Final Solution" very little sympathy was available for the Germans of the time.

 

[Desert_Fox]

Typical Nazi bashing as usual...

Hate to break it to you, but it was the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Government bringing this kind of registration in. Not Hitler. Not the Nazis.

In fact Hitler loosened many laws that the Weimar Government adopted. 1938 German Weapon Act, look it up. You want to talk about gun control in Germany, how about the gun control that the allies imposed in 1945?

Hitler abolished long gun registry in Germany.

Sorry?

Killer first post brah! What is your handle on Stormfront?

Perhaps it is Wendy C?

Yup, the Nazi's totally let the Jews keep their firearms, mmm hmmm....

Oh, and political dissidents weren't rounded up, persecuted, and starved/beaten/killed in concentration camps either.

Yup, Hitler loosened controls on firearms ownership! ..... for members of the nazi party....

 

[John Sukey]

A friend who lived through that told me that the SA would come into town, hold a band concert and hand out candy to the kids. THEN they would ask them if they knew anyone with guns. The next step? Ve KNOW you Haff them, turn them in! Refusing to to so was NOT an option. Now the Versailles treaty restricted MILITARY weapons.

 

[Doc M]

Typical Nazi bashing as usual...

Hate to break it to you, but it was the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Government bringing this kind of registration in. Not Hitler. Not the Nazis.

In fact Hitler loosened many laws that the Weimar Government adopted. 1938 German Weapon Act, look it up. You want to talk about gun control in Germany, how about the gun control that the allies imposed in 1945?

Hitler abolished long gun registry in Germany.

Sorry?

History fail. Tell Ari Baum (and anyone else committing the heinous crime of being a Jew, cripple, Gypsy, or 'other' with a firearm) that Hitler "loosened" firearm restrictions on the whole.

On paper it sure looks good - until you get to the whole "trustworthy" persons bit. Not many of those around at that time, apparently?

-M

 

[Mike Webb]

Typical Nazi bashing as usual...

Hate to break it to you, but it was the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Government bringing this kind of registration in. Not Hitler. Not the Nazis.

In fact Hitler loosened many laws that the Weimar Government adopted. 1938 German Weapon Act, look it up. You want to talk about gun control in Germany, how about the gun control that the allies imposed in 1945?

Hitler abolished long gun registry in Germany.

Sorry?

Why wouldn't anyone bash the Nazis, their actions were indefensible. Anyone who says different is either a Nazi themselves or an imbecile.

 

[skirsons]

The Nazis do get a lot of attention compared to the Soviets, for example, a far more brutal regime but an ally (which is why that murderer Stalin was called "uncle Joe")

In 1917 the Communists arrested and killed people who had STAMP COLLECTIONS.

 

[Arkangell]

i am confused did morph18 not read the Hitler quote? seems pretty dumb to argue he wanted anyone to have guns after a statement liek that, oh wait he was ####ing bat#### crazy. But seriously if you loved the nazis, islam hates jews just as much maybe they are accepting applications?

 

[sgt.rock]

Just another first post troll from the liberal party of Canada.(hey Morph18......or should I say Mr. Ignatief) Jeezus, they stand out pretty easily around here huh? Kinda like flies on a road apple

 

[camster]

Dies gilt nicht für die Einziehung führen

My German is rusty and, used a translator service...this might be more correct:

dies wird nicht zu einer Verwirkung führen

 

[bearhunter]

The Versailles Treaty was the reason the Nazi's came about. As mentioned above, it did limit military firearms, armor, aircraft and ships.
The treaty was so restrictive that it led to the Great Depression in Europe which spilled over to the rest of the world.

Something had to give in Germany, inflation was rampant, people were starving and industry was crippled. It was even mentioned to the powers that be this would happen if the Versailles Treaty was imposed. The Germans and her allies took the full brunt of the reasons behind WWI. Nothing could be further from the truth. The bankers and politicians got greedy and demanded restitution for war damages. They also decided to put a stranglehold on anything German. Hence, the only country that didn't sign the Treaty, Soviet Russia, formed a secret technological agreement with Germany.

Understand, I am in no way defending Hitler or the Nazis but Germany was backed into a corner and was being kicked to death. Hitler was the only visible option at the time. I was talking to an Austrian about the Nazi take over. He said everything changed over night. They went from scrambling for jobs and food to lots of well paying work and lots of food. Hitler could do no wrong in many eyes. He was a sociopath of course but that wasn't evident at first. Remember, during the years before and after WWI, racism was rampant throughout the world. It was an acceptable practise world wide. Many people on all continents felt Hitler was following the perfect path and supported him financially and in the media.

 

[canuckchap]

I wonder....

how many similar "boxes" are waiting...undiscovered out there!!

Just before the nazi troops invaded France's south part, which was still considered a"demilitarized zone" under Vichy's jurisdiction, one of my grandfather's contacts told him a general confiscation of all the hunting firearms was pending.
And he gave him the advice to log a simple ad on the sell/buy pages of the regional newspaper, putting his shotguns and other hunting rifles "up for sale" then go and make a secure cache for them.
My grandfather lost no time and fashioned a sturdy wooden box (he was a carpenter, stair and cabinet maker), put all his greased and wrapped firearms in it then sealed the works in a lead sheet, soldered at the seams.
Then he went and buried the chest under the hotel's septic tank overflow .
When the german officials asked him if he still had any "weapons" (funny, they knew him and everyone in the place), he told them that his health didn't allow him to roam the mountains with his dogs anymore and that he had sold his firearms some months ago to a man from Lourdes and showed the newspaper ad as proof. They bought his story.

Today, that simple plan would not work, thanks to our Great National Registry.
I guess Nazis would love such a registry...
PP.

 

[pres717]

Just before the nazi troops invaded France's south part, which was still considered a"demilitarized zone" under Vichy's jurisdiction, one of my grandfather's contacts told him a general confiscation of all the hunting firearms was pending.
And he gave him the advice to log a simple ad on the sell/buy pages of the regional newspaper, putting his shotguns and other hunting rifles "up for sale" then go and make a secure cache for them.
My grandfather lost no time and fashioned a sturdy wooden box (he was a carpenter, stair and cabinet maker), put all his greased and wrapped firearms in it then sealed the works in a lead sheet, soldered at the seams.
Then he went and buried the chest under the hotel's septic tank overflow .
When the german officials asked him if he still had any "weapons" (funny, they knew him and everyone in the place), he told them that his health didn't allow him to roam the mountains with his dogs anymore and that he had sold his firearms some months ago to a man from Lourdes and showed the newspaper ad as proof. They bought his story.

Today, that simple plan would not work, thanks to our Great National Registry.
I guess Nazis would love such a registry...
PP.

If or when it comes to that point where we would have guns taken away. I feel many people may loose their guns. Would be terrible.

 

[pres717]

Before Martin made that announcement, I was planning to get a .22 revolver.
After the announcement, I did... and got a CZ 75 in 9mm just to spite him.

I know, I am trying to complete my most wanted list (of guns) before the next election (just in case). The bad part is that my list keeps growing!

 

[pres717]

By the way Desert Fox, thanks for posting this photo. A picture is worth a thousand words.

 

[Coyote Ugly]

Typical Nazi bashing as usual...

Hate to break it to you, but it was the Treaty of Versailles and the Weimar Government bringing this kind of registration in. Not Hitler. Not the Nazis.

In fact Hitler loosened many laws that the Weimar Government adopted. 1938 German Weapon Act, look it up. You want to talk about gun control in Germany, how about the gun control that the allies imposed in 1945?

Hitler abolished long gun registry in Germany.

Sorry?

Is that you Wacky Jacky, Wendy and Iggy Trolling the gunsites! lol