First AR-15?

[Nervvv]

Yeah i was looking at the colts as well whats the difference anyways? Seems like most of the ARs in the 2k range are pretty similar.

 

[TheM4chef]

Yeah i was leaning more to the DD M4A1 14.5 and it does come with the permanent flash hider that makes it 16" total, however i was told they snap off quite easily. I was advised to grab a s&w m&p 15 and just run the crap out of it. But honestly i have the means to get a quality AR for the money so why not. Any other suggestions as to optics or accessories?

Hmmm so you were told by someone the pinned and welded flash hider on the DD snap off quite easily (btw nearly all theSE flash bidders should be removable) and you should just get the m&p15 instead?? I would run for the hills by that advice. I would love to see even one picture of a "snapped off" flash hider

 

[Nervvv]

Yeah honestly, it was a local gun shop that sells them they told me they snapped off because they are barly welded on. Yeah I didnt really take the advice thats for sure, I told them my price range and they still recommended the m&p15. I want a quality AR, the PWS ARs are interesting me now, any feedback on them?

 

[rkm456]

Just like the 1911 was made for the .45 ACP, the AR was made for the .223/5.56. Since this is your first AR, go with the DD in .223.
Depending how and what type of shooting games you do, the .223 will cost enough. The .300 is cost prohibitive unless you reload and the sizing etc of the brass is time consuming. Even if you reload, .300 costs close to $1/ round! You have to REALLY love the .300 option to spend time with reloading for that route.
We had a guy use the 300BLK at a match recently. His gun kept jamming and he spent a lot of time searching for the precious brass after. Not too fun IMO.

More like 40-50 cents/round assuming you're using something fancy like Hornady bullets. Brass is free, even once fired brass is cheap. I would still go with one of the 5.56 options for my first though. I do think it's funny someone would shoot a match with it though.

 

[rkm456]

Well my reasoning behind the AAC blackout AR was that I could easily down the road also purchase a .223 upper and have both. Thats why im still debating between that and the m4a1

Better to do it the other way around, imo. The 300blk will be a novelty, once in a while toy. Get a quality 5.56/223 rig and get any old 300blk upper down the road.

 

[Leg]

Yeah honestly, it was a local gun shop that sells them they told me they snapped off because they are barly welded on. Yeah I didnt really take the advice thats for sure, I told them my price range and they still recommended the m&p15. I want a quality AR, the PWS ARs are interesting me now, any feedback on them?

That sounds like the LGS doesn't have any DD sitting on the shelf. Lol

For excellent quality and good bang for your buck I'd be looking at a Colt 6920. Nothing wrong with DD though.

 

[SigWig]

just for fun check out knights armament, H&K and maybe noveske

if you want a .308, BCL 102 is the way to go for non-restricted

 

[CreamySmooth]

ABC's of AR's.

Always Buy Colt. But the DD's are pretty darn sweet. Get what you can afford... The Colt Canadas and DD's are overpriced for what we can use them for, but that's just my opinion. Very nice guns for sure. If you plan on getting "the best" go those routes.

Go to IRunGuns and see what they have on for a sweet special. For example the COLT LE6920-OEM1 CAR 5.56 16 W/KIT is 757 US$. Then you can add whatever furniture you want. That's just an idea.

 

[SigWig]

The colt canada magic is in the barrel. Chrome lined hammer forged with a very slight choke. (one of the best)

Colt USA from my terrible memory use a button rifled barrel.

 

[Kidd X]

To be fair, the entire AR platform more or less falls under that "waste of time and money" heading up here. Sometimes it's nice to have something a little different than everyone else at the range.

AR's were made for .223/5.56(I'm aware their lineage stems from the AR 10) and a flat shooting centrefire cartridge is a viable option for more serious work should the need arise, or if we ever get rid of the stupid firearms laws. Being different or special doesn't mean being better. As I said the 300Blk is only great for very short guns and suppressed work. The short we can do up here but the price for ammo is insane.

You want to pay $1/round to be different at the range that looks like another AR15? Okay.

Perfect, so basically I can get the 14.5 DD m4a1 and later on can purchase a SBR upper 10.5 for it? Also the flash hider on the barrel is permanent does that matter?

Another upper/top is an easy swap and the cheaper way to get two guns...Sort of.

Let me preface the following statement by saying I pointed out early in the thread that cost to shoot is a mitigating circumstance for many. The round is very different from .223 and some people like variety. I've also met others who've told me that an AR in .223 is a waste of money. "You can't hunt with it, might as well get a .22" The same way not everyone wants to shoot .22LR not everyone wants to shoot 9mm and .223 all the time.

You can't hunt with the AR in this country, you can hunt with it in other countries like the US. A rimfire AR is all but worthless for anything but short range plinking. If you enjoy variety go for it, others prefer to work on their skills and couldn't care less that they do that with the same calibre every trip.

Well my reasoning behind the AAC blackout AR was that I could easily down the road also purchase a .223 upper and have both. Thats why im still debating between that and the m4a1

Cost prohibitive ammo and difficult to find. Stick with the DD( or other quality brand) in .223/5.56 and shoot the bag off it.

Yeah i was looking at the colts as well whats the difference anyways? Seems like most of the ARs in the 2k range are pretty similar.

Colt makes a great rifle(main line colt not their expanse garbage) as does Colt Canada. The CC guns are way over hyped and offer nothing earth shattering as far as performance, they're a well made milspec rifle.

Yeah honestly, it was a local gun shop that sells them they told me they snapped off because they are barly welded on. Yeah I didnt really take the advice thats for sure, I told them my price range and they still recommended the m&p15. I want a quality AR, the PWS ARs are interesting me now, any feedback on them?

Permanent flash hiders are threaded on then welded. The local gun shop is staffed by morons.

The colt canada magic is in the barrel. Chrome lined hammer forged with a very slight choke. (one of the best)

Colt USA from my terrible memory use a button rifled barrel.

The so called choke is a byproduct of cold hammer forging and is present in all cold hammer forged barrels. A CFH barrel from DD, BCM, Noveske etc will all exhibit the same characteristics.